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i've looked around about overclocking for awhile now. i have a msi gt72 dominator pro. which can handle overclocking cause it has a really amazing cooling setup. the computer runs a gtx 970m with 3 gigs of vram. i'm new to overclocking and i know the risks. i currently run gta 5 at around 44 fps with gta redux installed gpu temps run around 60 c when playing gta 5. i also have a 240 volts power supply. if any more info is needed i would be happy to provide more info. thanks

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update. my laptop is build by msi. it has something called shift mode. it overclocks both the gpu and the cpu. how do i know if it does it effectively. how much fps would i gain if i overclocked it myself?

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update. my laptop is build by msi. it has something called shift mode. it overclocks both the gpu and the cpu. how do i know if it does it effectively. how much fps would i gain if i overclocked it myself? temps are 85 when running it at the overclocked mode.

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I would recommend looking on youtube for your laptop specifically.

If you are able to overclock it will be adjustable in your bios.  From what I recall, most laptops don't offer overclocks due to bad thermals; although search around on the web.

 

Good luck!

 

 

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I wouldn't recommend overclocking a laptop as you probably wouldn't notice significant fps increases while increasing your computer temps.

 

If you want higher fps, I would turn off MSAA.

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I'll give you some better graphics options and then delve into my experience of gaming laptops:
First of all, if you want better frames - you'll need to get rid of GTA Redux. This mod is seriously intensive and I wouldn't be surprised with every other graphics option if you have frequent FPS drops or stutters, especially when playing a CPU intensive plugin like LSPDFR which also knocks off frames. GTA looks okay enough on it's own - ofcourse it's up to you but if you want better performance, you'll have to sacrifice.

With the 970m, I believe it suffers the same memory issues as it's desktop counterpart, the GTX 970, which is that the first 2.5GB of VRAM are fast, but the last 500MB of memory are slower, which could lead to bottlenecking the frames or stuttering. My advice is have your graphics options set so you're not chewing more than 2.5GB of VRAM at a given time, it's frustrating that you can't use the last of the juice in the card but nothing can really be done for it.

 

- This one is real important! Only use TWO types of Anti Aliasing at the most! You have FXAA, MSAA and Nvidia TXAA all on, with Nvidia TXAA being the most taxing on the GPU. I'd suggest turning nVidia TXAA off, and keeping FXAA and MSAA, and perhaps then you could turn MSAA up to x4 without so much loss in performance, and I think it looks just as good.

 

- Turn reflection MSAA to x2, possibly x4. I find that I don't really see much of a difference between x4 and x8, but it can be more taxing. This will just affect the edges of things you see in mirrors, windows, etc.. 

 

- Unless your laptop comes with a GSync screen, turn Vsync on. This will prevent image tearing, however if you have GSync, it's probably best to keep Vsync off (Having both on can also cause tearing). Although if you've played GTA with Vsync off and don't notice stutters or tearing, I wouldn't even bother turning it on.

- Turn Water Quality down one notch, to High. For the most part this won't affect you because you're not always near the ocean but still - unless you're doing marime policing will you notice a little less detail in the waves?

- Your choice here: Either turn down Reflection or Shadows by one notch. Unless you're spending your whole gameplay watching windows & mirrors you probably won't care or notice with reflection down to High, and I don't notice if Shadow Quality goes down (shadow draw distance is something that really pisses me off though if it's not far enough)


Everything else can pretty much stay where it is, Ambient Occlusion isn't so taxing so might as well leave that at max if you have. If you have an i5, turn down some of the population density/variety scales, if you have an i7, it should be fine with handling the load. I'd leave most things in Advanced Graphics options off unless something like draw distance is not enough for your liking.
 

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My experience with gaming laptops has generally been that if you want performance and ultra settings, you'll need to sacrifice the portability and go with a desktop. There ARE some either rather expensive, or rather risky options though which can push you over the line, but the risk or price even may not prove worth it in the end.
The expensive option being that you can purchase an external GPU case (I think ASUS are releasing a new one soon/already have maybe) and purchase a graphics card like a 980Ti to put in there. It'll basically plug into your laptop and make it so that the laptop will use the external graphics card instead of the one inside your laptop, meaning better laptop temps and better performance however by the time you do this, you're really sacrificing the portability of a laptop and might as well upgrade to a desktop anyway..

Most/all 'gaming laptop' developers will lock any overclocking option or potential in the BIOS (no matter how they're advertised as "overclocking beasts" or "amazing cooling potential", meaning programs like MSI Afterburner (Primary software used to OC graphics cards, EVGA also has their own version) won't be able to access the options to overclock the GPU for you. Because OC options are locked you also generally won't be able to edit things like CPU clock speeds and fan speeds in the BIOS either. There is a risky way around this, however when I say risky I mean risky, and I would not under any circumstances recommend it - it can lead to bricking your device, and it will always break your warranty! Risky option being: Flashing a new custom BIOS (this is akin to heart transplant surgery but for computers) - it can be risky, buggy, and generally perhaps not even worth the risk. No manufacturer will cover any damage caused by overclocking (or attempts to) or flashing a new BIOS in their warranty, meaning if it breaks you're out of a laptop with no replacement or money!

I would highly recommend if you're craving better frames or higher quality you buy a desktop if you have the money - or if you can afford the cheaper option which is to keep the laptop but run it with an external GPU, otherwise I'm sorry to say there is not much you can do with gaming laptops in terms of getting them to run better - the options just aren't there, but there of course is a reason for it.. These manufacturers lock these options so you don't break your laptop, which is why I think it's a good idea to keep it that way. 

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