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Going on the ELS note - I'd love to see it. People sit and argue that the lights in game are good as is. That's fine and dandy. Why wouldn't you want the realism of having different flash patterns? Different siren tones? Traffic Advisors? Better looking lights? Different colored lights? It's just a no-brainer to me. If you don't like ELS you wouldn't have to install it. On GTAIV ELS and LCPDFR went together like Bread and Butter. There's no reason why ELS shouldn't be supported and be desired for GTA V. Just my two pennies.

No problem. Always here to help ;)

Hey, CreepPork I think I found what you are looking for. http://www.fedsig.com/products/193/solaris_ils

Could be from a number of manufacturers and I can't tell off the top of my head but I'm thinking maybe a Sound Off Signal Inner Pinnacle or a Code 3 Super-Visor. Whelen also has the Inner Edge series which it could be as well. I'm not familiar with foreign emergency light makers I have a feeling it might be something local to where the vehicle is in service.

I completely support it, and do it often.

Not to be an ass here, but I couldn't hardly read what you said. I think you should study the english language before the laws... And its arrogant to say "if you refused me you'd be in shiny bracelets" -- If you would put me in "shiny bracelets" for refusing to answer your questions, I would have you in court before you could even think about it. Just saying. The equipment is legal property - therefore its constitutionally protected. It's legal to own. Therefore protected by the 4th amendment. Case closed. I don't know why you're trying to argue the UNITED STATES constitution with me when you're from CANADA? Clearly your against me doing this. Thats fine, I don't really care. But I'm going to build MY car how I want it. You go ahead and build yours. But to call me a problem and say I'm "the reason police don't like people buying crown vics" is absolutely absurd. Just because you don't have a passion in policing like I do doesn't mean you need to go bashing an interest and a hobby of mine. I never said I was going to do any of the stuff I was saying, which is what hypothetically speaking means. So please, just cease your argument with me. Thanks.

If they don't know what I'm doing with equipment, thats not their problem then. Until they actually witness me, or anyone just in general with similar equipment doing something illegal they have nothing to go on. Here, let's compare it to something else. I live in Ohio, which is an open carry state, as many other US states are. This means if you can legally own a firearm, you are allowed to visibly carry it on your person in public. Do you think you'll get a lot of police attention? Sure. So lets say I'm walking down Main St. with my Glock 23 holstered on my left hip, fully loaded with one in the chamber. A local LEO comes up to me and starts asking me questions. He wants to see my ID, know why I'm walking down the street with a firearm, and either A) take my firearm away from me, or B) Take it away and also search me. I -legally- have the right to refuse to show him my I.D., answer any of his questions and refuse the search of my person or my belongings. You'd think a person with a firearm would have to submit to said things right? Well it all falls down to the officer would need to have reasonable, articulable suspicion (RAS) that a crime has been, is actually being, or will be committed at the time of the encounter. Simply open-carrying a firearm is not RAS that a crime has been, is being, or will be comitted. Now say an individual was walking down the street with a firearm in his hand waving it around, making threats, etc. Then yes, that is RAS. Same goes for impersonation. If one is not actually committing a crime, then nothing can come of it. I'm not saying it wont be a little bit suspicious, but I'm saying in the eyes of the law, it is in fact, not illegal. I have yet to find any piece of legislature that says owning a radar is illegal. At least here in the US. And I did not say I was going to do that I was saying that is not impersonation. I mean wouldn't sitting in a parking lot with parking lights on be impersonation too? Because they do that a lot as well. "(4) "Impersonate" means to act the part of, assume the identity of, wear the uniform or any part of the uniform of, or display the identification of a particular person or of a member of a class of persons with purpose to make another person believe that the actor is that particular person or is a member of that class of persons." ^ This is straight from the Ohio Revised Code (Where I live, could be different elsewhere.) As I said, Hypothetically doing what I described is not impersonation because, at least according to the ORC, someone would not be breaking the law. And honestly none of this is to say that if an officer would see this, would try to get someone for impersonation. There are many police officers (in fact I'd bet on a vast majority) that do not fully know and understand the law. So I guess it is possible for one to get arrested for impersonation, but then when it goes to court, the person will be found innocent because no crime actually occured. Then the defendant will turn around and sue the police department for false arrest. The reason I study the law so much and am real big on constitutional rights, is because when I am a police officer, I want to be one of the few that actually know the law I'm sworn to uphold, and protect the rights of the people whom I serve. There are not many officers like that out there.

Well I see what y'all are saying. But we also have to look at it from the laws prospective. Just because someone has equipment doesn't necessarily mean they are doing anything illegal. So therefore you cannot be arrested / cited for impersonation if you're not actually impersonating. Sitting in a public parking lot, with your parking lights on, with all of the equipment, radar on, whatever (not saying saying I will do this, just hypothetically) and the police come up and question you, while yes it does look suspicious, you are technically not doing anything illegal. You don't have to answer the officer's questions, etc. Sitting in a parking lot, running radar and then going after someone and attempting to pull them over, or going to a gas station and telling people you are the police when you're really not police, then yes. That could be considered impersonation and can land you in jail. I don't mean to stir up an argument with saying this, but not only am I majoring in criminology, I'm also majoring in Pre-Law and I would say I have a good understanding of the law, and also I have a good understanding of my rights. If an officer would ask me questions and I would not want to be bothered, I will simply tell him I do not answer questions and no illegal activity is going on. The only reason I say something like that is because you guys just automatically assume the police can get you for impersonation when no real crime is being committed, thats all. I know some of you might say they would have reasonable suspicion a crime is being committed but I firmly believe just owning the equipment and having it in your car, is not reasonable suspicion a crime is being committed. You guys are welcome to voice your thoughts and opinions on what I just said. Maybe there's another Law student on the board here that would share there experiences / opinions? Either way, whether you think its a good idea or not -- none of the equipment will be used in an illegal manner. And for the radar question -- As I stated its also a prop vehicle for an up-and-coming youtube series. The radar is more or less a prop, even though with all the research I've done nothing is illegal about owning it and using it. In fact it was purchased at a government auction and auctioned off to the public. If there were some sort of stipulations to owning one, wouldn't you think they would have restricted the purchase to whomever is authorized to do so?

Lmao didn't mean for this to be a flame war. I paid $3500 for the car. Around here thats a good price as the cab drivers drive the price up like you wouldn't believe. As for them being a money pit? Eh. Maybe, maybe not. I do think I'm going to have to replace the passenger side valve cover, which seems to be common on these cars to fail. The power steering pump also needs replaced but I knew that before I bought it. In fact the seller gave me a new pump to go with the car. I drove it over 120 miles home with no problems what so ever. 3 of my friends have them and they are all running very strong. As for the equipment it is not illegal. Amber lighting can be used by anyone, anytime on either public roadways or private property. The siren can only be used on private property, however the airhorn and P.A. function can be used on public roadways. Dash camera, well, I mean I believe every car should have one. The partition, not illegal. Motorola radio, not illegal. Radar, eh I'm not sure about this one. Obviously I'm not going to be driving around my town harassing motorists. I will not use this vehicle for illegal activities and any and all video shoots will be cleared with local law enforcement to give them the heads up on why theres a fake cop car having someone pulled over. Like I said, not only am I just building a unique, out of the ordinary daily driver, but also doing something I enjoy by actually building it. I enjoy running all of the wires. I enjoy working on my cars. I do also do security for the local chamber of commerce and we have large downtown events and in the rare event that a subject needs to be detained, a road needs to be blocked off, or traffic needs to be directed my vehicle will be able to do so until law enforcement can arrive. But like I said, I'll post a thread on the build here in the future. I'm going to be taking out roughly $1,500 in a personal loan to buy all my equipment!

Hey y'all hows it going? Just thought I'd share with y'all my new car I just picked up on saturday! free photo upload image It's a 2009 CVPI. Former Philly Port Authority (At least thats what I was told.) Got 150k on her but I don't even care! It's a crown vic! Haha. Don't hassle me about the buddy bumper! A Go Rhino or Setina will be replacing that very soon! My new Unity Spotlight (current one doesn't have a lamp) and Whelen CometFlash 6-head strobe controller literally just landed on my door step. Its going to be used as not only my daily driver, but also a prop car for a youtube Cops parody/remake type deal here in the near future. Current plans are full lighting package (all amber of course), siren, etc. It's already got a Havis center console, working motorola maratrac radio, MPH radar unit, Mobile Vison dash cam (Well not installed but I have one.) Setina partition and back seat. Needless to say its awesome! Here is a pic of my buddies and mine next to each other (his on the left, mine right.) screen cap I'll probably do a build thread with me installing the equipment if y'all would like to see one.

Hey Carrythxd; I'm assuming you've made this map mod? If so, great job. I love it! But I have one suggestion/request: Could you possibly add median turn-arounds (like you see in US Highways) to the divided highway parts of the map? That would make traffic enforcement so much more realistic! Thanks!!

Thanks. Didn't think I was violating a rule because I wasn't advertising one. As soon as I find someone to help me I'll ask for this thread to be deleted. Thanks, SgtSpook

Hi, I don't think I'm in violation of any rules here, but if I am, my bad. Recently I bought a domain name (lcresponse.com) with an interest and intention of starting an RP Clan. However I don't think I'll be able to do this alone. If anyone would have any interest in helping me please let me know. I'm looking for someone who can provide us with a TS Server or with the hook ups to get us one. Shoot me a message on here and we'll talk business. Thanks.

OK thanks for the update buddy! Great job on everything and I can't wait for the plain clothes officers!!

Was the plain clothes officer not released?

Also the Code 3 MX7000 LED Bar...

OK thanks. How would I go about adding strobes in the corner of the headlights and also reverse/tail lights? And how do I correctly place things in the hierarchy? P.S. thanks a lot for your help mate.

Right I understand. But like if I import a specific model like BxBugs Code 3 XT6 it has an advisor bar and then a single light below it. How do I separate those? Or delete just the single light? Also a tutorial on how to correctly place stuff in the hierarchy would also be very helpful.

Hi, Since there's a lot of parts that have been released unlocked and such, could someone make a tutorial on how to correctly import, place and then export them in zmodeler? Or if one has been made link me to it? It would help a lot! Thanks!

It would be nice if someone could release a tutorial on how to correctly place them etc. in zModeler! Or if anyone is willing to help please shoot me a pm!