Horvath

No insult taken. I do understand that things are a lot more expensive out on your side. $86,000 is a fantastic salary here! About that situation you described, I see a severe lack of respect. Like you said, people just don't care unless it affects them.

I understand your point, but I will not change how I work. I actually have indeed gotten several complaints against me, and my manager has backed me in every one, and told the complainant that I was simply doing my job. My customer service is reserved for my customers, not the customers of my customers. I'm forceful for a reason. People generally do not respond to politeness. Unfortunate, but in my experience, it's true. I try to keep all my stops under 5 minutes total, from the time I leave the truck until I get back in. I simply don't have time to slow down. Indiana, too. It is state law that you must yield to emergency vehicles, on the road, or stopped. I make more than a lot of police officers around here. A city nearby pays their officers $32,000 annually, I make around $36,000. Most departments pay closer to $40,000, but there's a few in the $30,000s. I make more than enough to get by, and I live very comfortably.

If you are hired into an Indiana PD, they pay to send you to the Indiana Police Acadamy. Our economy is very strong here. Agility test? Very easy. I've got five years in the Army Reserve, and quite honestly, the agility test to get into Brink's was MUCH harder than the police one. That is outstanding advice, and I will take it. Thank you. Also, my mom knows a guy who was a cop for a long time, and whose daughter and son in law work for MPD, and he knows the chief. I just found out about that yesterday, but I guess he called the chief on my behalf. I hope that helps a little.

21, online for Brink's. Can't speak for Loomis, Dunbar, or Garda, but I would check on their sites. I'd be happy to help with any other questions you may have. We don't park directly in front of the door, we park just to the side, so that I have the most direct route in and out, while not blocking the door. The way my driver was parked in the stories I posted actually made it easier to go around than to go on the danger side. Unfortunately, a lot of guys don't take it seriously enough. Those are the ones that end up getting jumped and shot. They don't realize that people are actually watching them. You noticed. Criminals notice, too, and they rob the ones like you mentioned.

You make some valid points. I appreciate your input. As far as I'm concerned, my primary goal is to go home safely each day. If someone else goes home thinking I'm a jerk, so be it, I don't trouble myself with others' opinions. There are people who would not hesitate to kill me over what's in my bag, and as such, I have to treat everyone as a threat. I do not respond to people when they talk to me, unless it's a legitimate question. My goal is to get out of the truck, into the customers office, and back out again as quickly as possible. I've learned that requesting right of way (saying "excuse me") does not work 90% of the time. I have found that demanding right of way ("MOVE!" or "COMING THROUGH" or "WATCH OUT!) works much better. I have to be forceful and commanding, or people don't respond. I usually just end up moving people or their carts manually. To respond to your comment about not knowing it's a big deal to get close to my door when it's open, understand that there is probably A LOT more cash on board than you realize, and when the door is open, we're vulnerable. When the door is closed, not a huge deal, I'll wait for you to pass, then hop out, or get in, whatever it may be. When it's open, if you get within about 20 feet, I'm going to promptly inform you that you need to back up. My life is more important than anyone's convenience. I just wish more people would keep their distance. Putting me on edge is not a smart move. We actually had a guy a while ago walk up to one of our messengers with his hand in his pocket, holding his child in the other. He walked up, pointed his hand that was in his pocket like he had a gun, and told him to give him all the money. Our guy immediately drew on him, and he pulled his hand out, saying it was only a joke, and that he didn't have to get upset. You have to admit that that was ridiculously stupid. He risked his life, and the life of his kid, for a pathetic joke. I'm glad he was able to surrender before being shot.

...are people really ignorant? Just a little preliminary question for you, a hypothetical situation, if you will... You're going to WalMart, and see a 30,000 lb armored truck by the door, the messenger has the door open which has a big yellow sign that says "STAY BACK," and he's loading boxed coin onto a hand cart. Do you; A) Heed the sign's warning, and stay back, and go around the truck OR B) Walk up to the messenger with your hands in your pockets, and attempt to walk between the truck and the building Think about that for a brief moment. Okay, so on several occasions today, I had people get WAY too close to me. The first one had his eyes on me, and with his hands in his pocket, walked towards me. I dropped what I was doing, stared him down, and put my hand on my gun and waited for him to pass. The second more notable situation was at another WalMart, we were parked about 6 feet from the wall. With my side door open, that left about 3 feet between my door and the wall. I was loading coin again, and a guy walked up from the front of the truck, and I knew he was going to try and get between me and the wall. I pointed at him and yelled at him to go around, which he did. During that same stop, right after him, another guy came up from the back. At least with him, as soon as I looked at him, he stepped back, and went around. On top of that, I had several people walk into me while inside. Like they're just drifting over, and bump me. I had to push several people today. What the hell is wrong with people? Today was one of the worst days I've had in a while dealing with people. Just wanted to vent a little of my rage.

Thanks! From what part of Indiana do you hail?

Did my testing today. Aced the written, I'm sure. Passed all the physical agility tests. Next is the background investigation, then the interview. I'll probably apply to a few more departments soon. I hope I get in to Mishawaka, but I won't hold my breath. Over 90 applicants, only 3 positions open. I hope I stand out in the interview.

Are you hitting Alt+E to go 10-8 after your callout? If you are not, then you will not be getting any new dispatches.

Vanilla cars and lights for me. ELS is too unrealistic for me. I like my doors to work and to have damage on my car. I play as LCPD based on the NYPD, so no shotguns or rifles, all my cars have vector rotators, and NYPD based LCPD skins. I use the strobes mod, and coupled with the standard LCPD:FR lighting modes, looks very nice. There are a lot of really nice SLS cars out there, you just have to look. My game is a lot more stable and realistic than it would be with ELS. Personally, I hate how popular it is. It makes the lights pretty, but pretty much ruins the rest of the game. I play for the game, not the lights.

Any updates on the Declasse Merit?

GOD YES!!! I was about to start a thread on this very thing. It's horrible.

Open carry is illegal in Texas. Thought I'd point that out.

Change the handling line.

Thanks! I should have no problems with it. I have a good feeling about it.

Got my letter yesterday. Going to take the written exam and the agility test in March. I'm excited.

What part of Michigan are you from? I've OCed in Niles, Buchanan, St. Joe, Benton Harbor, and Detroit. No issues at any of those places. Had a St. Joe cop nod at me when I was up there.

If you can't tell by my name and avatar, I work at Brink's. I am a messenger, I carry large amounts of cash in and out of several places daily. I would feel much more comfortable seeing people who are armed in my stops. I've come across two open carriers so far, one at a bank, and one at a WalMart, and I've thanked both of them. People with their hands in their pockets make me much more uncomfortable than an openly carried handgun. I carry openly because: -It's more comfortable. I carried concealed for over a year. I had to wear bigger clothes and dress differently to accomodate my gun. I carried a SIG Sauer P226, and a small gun was out of the question. I won't sacrifice firepower for convinience. -It's easier. I can draw faster, and instead of using my off hand to lift my shirt, I can use it to fight off an attacker, grab my flashlight, or whatever I may need it for. My gun won't get snagged on my clothing. -It's visible. You may see this as a disadvantage, but I assure you, it is not. Your element of surprise argument is silly, because for that tactic to work, you must be attacked. Being attacked is a disadvantage. If you feel nervous about an openly carried gun, I urge you to think about that. What about the 10-15 in the same area that you can't see? Those are fine, but because you can see mine, I'm a threat? Right. If I'm a criminal, the very first thing I want to do is draw attention to myself. -Because I can. No explaination needed. I tried carrying concealed. Not for me. An off duty cop tried to change my mind, and I politely told him that I didn't need his opinion on how I should carry.

Nope. Google sucks, they ruined Youtube, and I refuse to be a part of it.

The biggest question here is: Why are you using Google? Google is a terrible company hell-bent on destroying the internet. Google is not allowed in my home.

No, I assure you, I said what I meant. People who are afraid of guns, afraid of people having and or carrying guns, or who are against the aforementioned things, project their own insecurities onto every person. Let me explain. A person thinks guns are bad, people with guns are bad, and that no one should ever be allowed to carry a gun. This is because they think, if handed a gun, they would start shooting people, so they ascribe that feeling of insanity to every other person. That, by definition, is projection. To say that we should ban guns because some people are insane lunatics is the very logic of those insane lunatics, which again, is some unstable person who thinks I shouldn't carry a gun because he thinks if he had one, he would kill people. Madness. Also: Yes, I think everyone should carry. I would like that very much, however, I understand that not everyone will, and that's fine. Although, I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't want to.

There cannot be LCPD:FR for GTA V. LSPD:FR, maybe...

Element of surprise is not a good defensive tactic. It's most useful for ambushing, which is an attack. A situation would likely not need diffusing if the gun was visible, and by your post, you seem to think that showing the gun would in fact diffuse said situation, so would it not make more sense to already have it visible in order to prevent said situation from requiring diffusing? Did you mean .223/5.56? Which is it? .223 or 5.56? You cannot fire 5.56mm from a gun chambered in .223. It's one or the other. If it's both, it's 5.56. My idea is to stop the attack before it is formed into a complete idea by a possible attacker. The goal here is to stop him in his planning stage. He will scope out targets, choose one, stalk it, attack it. While he's looking for targets, I make myself a hard target, he knows that attacking me will result in someone dying, or at the very least, becoming seriously injured. This will discourage the vast majority of criminals. If we wait to show our attacker we are armed until AFTER he attacks, he already has an advantage, in that he has attacked. I prefer to not be attacked in the first place. That's just me, though. You might want to do it differently.

I open carry, I have since I was 19. I've never had an issue with anyone. It doesn't make me a target, as much as you think it might, I assure you, it does not. If anything, the opposite is true. I do not do it out of necessity, I do it out of convinience and comfort. The only time I ever "conceal" is when I wear a coat. I am a strong advocate of open carry, but I don't really give a damn how you carry, as long as you carry. Okay, first of all, it IS NOT the duty of a police officer to provide for my protection and safety. Second of all, if I need to defend my life RIGHT NOW, I DO NOT have ANY time to wait for police response. Even three minutes is too long. What you just stated was pure nonsense. Should we take away motor vehicles from everyone because a few "crazed lunatics" killed some people with a car? Quit projecting your insecurities, and quit punishing the whole for the mistakes of the few. I would feel safer in my job if everyone carried guns.