So me and my friends had to downgrade GTA 4 because it was not allowing multiplayer anymore. But some of my friends don't have GFWL so I had to get it for them but now they can't go online. So I'm wondering, Since this is one of the most active GTA 4 forum I've been on. How do you port forward vanilla GTA4. Will it be in lan? or will a forwarded server be in Live, and if my friends don't have live online can they join?