CHP Ford Police Interceptor Utility

47 minutes ago, Andy McNally said:

Well that should change, do you really think its ok to slander other member like that ???

Calling someone lazy isn't slander.  Teachers call students lazy, do you hear anyone throwing a fit other than the student who doesn't want to admit it?  It's not going to change because it's censorship.  We don't allow members to bash each other or be rude, but giving a legitimate opinion and saying someone is lazy is not slander or being rude. 

If you think it should change, post a topic in the website section and suggest it.  Otherwise, lets drop this topic and get back to what we're here for, the picture.

22 minutes ago, Kallus Rourke said:

 

Calling someone lazy isn't slander.  Teachers call students lazy, do you hear anyone throwing a fit other than the student who doesn't want to admit it?  It's not going to change because it's censorship.  We don't allow members to bash each other or be rude, but giving a legitimate opinion and saying someone is lazy is not slander or being rude. 

 

If you think it should change, post a topic in the website section and suggest it.  Otherwise, lets drop this topic and get back to what we're here for, the picture.

I agree, shouldn't be against the rules as that would be on a certain level, censorship as you've said. But I felt the need to explain my side of my opinion, which should also be justified so long as I'm not saying anything over the top.

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Sorry I didn't read through the whole thing, but what I want to say is, that I think thehurk didn't do a bad job, it's just the pack could be a bit better I guess. I'm talking about the non-els chp pack, since I don't use ELS in GTA V.

The lighting patterns show the code 3 light patterns (unfortunately in a faster matter), and no code 3 park or a changed pattern when they use the yelp siren tone, but nonetheless I think it's a huge pack consisting of pretty decent cars.

He told me he had a hard drive failure which lead to his cars gone, so he can't update them.

Also yes unfortunately these days I don't have enough time and also I'm not very motivated to learn everything for GTA V. So I'm pretty sure I won't be modding for GTA V. But I will always be appreciating great mods.

19 hours ago, Lundy said:

Although you state his response, showing like he couldn't care less, he did still put a great effort into the car(s) and shouldn't be bashed for his work having a few flaws. Assuming your conversation happened the exact way you state, he could've definitely responded in a more professional manner, I would've myself. Although to say he didn't research anything properly before going all out on an entire car pack and couldn't care less about accuracy is just entirely false and insulting. Then to preach Kanyo out in nothing else but to shame Thehurk's work and morals. There are plenty of things Hurk could work on in terms of vehicle modding, he's no expert R* studio member. Yet neither is Kanyo, he's got his flaws in his work, too. I know of lots of things I need to work on and learn myself. A lot of mistakes and flaws I've made/make, too. I can definitely agree that the majority of this community's modders are no 3D savants. I could go as far to say plenty of negative about plenty of people around here. Albeit there's no call for such slander, being plenty of people in the community do that already to each other. This community has the worst member-base I've ever mingled with, yet also a lot of people that I'm delighted to have met and befriended for hopefully a very long time. Although I can also agree entirely on, "They just don't seem to try that hard anymore for authenticity or care enough to do it right.  So, if you want it done right, I have learned just do it yourself." 'They' being for the most part the worst of what I've seen. Yet I wouldn't apply theHurk to a category. If my word means anything around here, he's shown plenty of hard work and passion into his showcasing. I've also noticed his outside life has taken a toll on him, leaving him with very little time to be around here. Also, stating ELS has flaws in itself that would make parts of your request for accuracy virtually impossible at the moment. A lot of core and side functions not functioning properly or at all, one of them being stage 2 lighting. If you're dissatisfied with what's to offer here, there's no call for banter. If you don't mean to convey it as such, I apologize, but no need to call people out like this. Criticism is a great thing, just better to show it in a more professional format.

Well said, and I am sorry for coming off criticizing.  Trust me, I know how much time and effort goes into modding cars and no doubt TheHunk put in A LOT of time in this.  I guess I was just disappointed at the way he rudely spoke with me when I was only excited and wanting to help with factual information and experience.  I only meant to help improve on his already nice pack, but he wasn't willing to even discuss it, but rather defend how good his pack already is.  When I engaged in offering to help, I was rudely asked to move on.  So, no big deal, moving on. 

This lead me to my emotional OPINION of the whole situation as well as the pack.  I still think it stands true that its an unfinished pack especially since I know exactly how to fix it for 100% accuracy to the IRL CHP.  If like Kanyo said and TheHunk lost the car due to a broken hard drive, then that's a full different story and I wish TheHurk could have been more kind and truthful about that.  Although, my very first conversation with TheHurk, I got the feeling he would take my suggestions into consideration and think about updating which lead me to believe it was possible to work with it.  When I continued to converse with him, I was quickly rudely shut out.  So, no big deal and moving on.       

1 minute ago, Spitfire7 said:

 

Perfectly fine. I've spoken with him previously about some issues, he's aware of most of them but time isn't on his side it seems. So I wouldn't expect anything much to change.

7 hours ago, Spitfire7 said:

TheHunk

He is quite the hunk, eh?

On 10/12/2017 at 8:55 PM, Spitfire7 said:

Oh, it doesn't even come close.  The stage 3 is good, but stage two front lights are way off and there is no accurate stage 1.  I showed him hard factual proof and video evidence and he told me to take a hike and he's happy with it and not going to change it.  For us California guys who even worked with the CHP and have family in the CHP it would be cool to have a realistic lighting model which is very doable and I could have helped him.  He just got lazy and used the built in CHP ELS setting and built his light model based on that which is way off and wrong and didn't do any research on how the real car should be.  So in other words, his is like a movie car where it looks good from far and just as a prop, but the ones who know the real CHP cars, know it misses the mark and way off. 

 

For example, for all of us who don't live in Texas would think a modder did a great job on a Texas state trooper car and figure the modder knows best right?  Well this is our case for the CHP pack and the modder doesn't know best in this case and could care less about making it accurate, but puts in the title that he has done everything he can to make it the most accurate and doesn't want or need any help.  Fake movie car.  I understand how that's okay for the 49 other states who have no clue what the CHP looks like.  But for us Cali residents who know the CHP and work with them, Bogus!

 

I will be working on my own at some point.  Moving on. 

Sorry Sgt.Kanyo for taking up your thread on your picture that I thought was for GTA V and I still wish it were. 

 

To everyone in here, Sgt. Kanyo is a great example of a modder who truly cares about the authenticity by doing the research and gets it right.  If I am not mistaken, didn't we even work together on making the very first steady burn LAPD car before stready burns were really possible?  That's the type of persistence us modders used to have, but now it just seems modders are tossing out new cars just for highest download scores which seems to be the emphasis these days as i was told over and over by TheHurks during our many conversations.  They just don't seem to try that hard anymore for authenticity or care enough to do it right.  So, if you want it done right, I have learned just do it yourself.    

 

Sgt. Kanyo, you ever thought about converting this one to GTA V?  I know you don't mod much anymore and are super busy, but just throwing that out there.  We are in need of authenticity once again!

Got lazy? Excuse me? I worked my fucking ass off on that pack, and just because you don't like it because it isn't accurate in your eyes i'm lazy? I played nice over PMS with you for a longest time trying to show you there was far more to the CHP setting then you want to believe. I told you that there were some trade offs with the CHP setting, just because the Right side of the lightbar doesn't shut off its completely inaccurate? Grow up. I told you the only thing that needed to be fixed was the steady burn setting it up the old way. I don't know who you think you are, but you seem to think you're the king of being able to critique people, and apparently now think you're able to insult people as well. 

I could care less what you accomplished in GTA IV. How many years ago was that? I didn't "tell you to take a hike" I gave you good reasoning why i wasn't going to go and re do everything. I have a life outside of modeling, and sorry that I cant do everything to everyone's fucking needs. Don't you dare say that i didn't do any research on how the lights should be. I spent a good month just getting the lighting right for this pack. I was unable to do specific things, but the ability to change patterns to the different patterns that they use was too much of a benefit to just set it up with LEDS and other settings. You can't just come back from fucking off and decide to insult someones hard work, that they did for the passion of modeling, and the department itself. 

EDIT:
I will post screenshots of our entire conversation if need be to show that i've been more then patient, asking numerous times to stop being asked about this pack, and to stop telling me i did everything wrong.

@Sgt.Kanyo With the ELS version, i wasn't able to really do much with the lighting as i was no expert in default lighting, and hated making cars for it. But with ELS i went all out trying to use as much references as possible, trying to weigh my options to see whether or not i was able to get it perfect, or like everything in GTA have to leave things out because of limitations. Had i had more extras, I would have been able to make the exact replica of the real CHP vehicles.

@Lundy Thank you for sticking up for me, i haven't been on the site in 3 days and i come back to all this, i appreciate it man.

Edited October 14, 20178 yr by Thehurk

On 10/13/2017 at 8:32 AM, Lundy said:

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