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Hi there,
I'm still trying to figure out what the best recording parameters for YouTube videos in HD1080 could be.
I use Bandicam but the YouTube1080 preset sucks. It records with VBR. That looks good on my PC but YouTube recalculates the data to CBR and the result is crap.
So currently I try it with CBR and 10.000kb/s for the video stream and 44.100 kHz MPG-1 L2 (why isn't there an MPG3 encoder built in?) for the audio stream. The result is fairly good on YouTube (example:

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Your graphics to the max, mostly you video quality...! and a ENB!! ~ Srgt.Scales

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mm weird, if you do all of that it shouldn't mine is set to medium and if you check out my vids there good quality.

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Would you mind to give me a link to one of your videos? I'd like to see it for comparison.

EDIT: I just found your "Test2". Well despite the fact that there are no shadows in your game the overall video quality is better on fast camera movements. I get the usual mpeg blurring and artefacts of the CBR algorithm on mine. So what recording software, video encoder and what settings do you use?

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Would you mind to give me a link to one of your videos? I'd like to see it for comparison.

EDIT: I just found your "Test2". Well despite the fact that there are no shadows in your game the overall video quality is better on fast camera movements. I get the usual mpeg blurring and artefacts of the CBR algorithm on mine. So what recording software, video encoder and what settings do you use?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZLjZJVOoQ4      I use Fraps.

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@srgt.scales: Thanks but what about the recording software, video encoder and settings? And what's also interesting me is how many MB per minute do your videos have in average? Mine are about 75.6MB/minute which is pretty much already, considering my internet provider contract allows for just 7.5MB/minute (1024kbit/s) upload speed.

EDIT: I have done some tests and here are the results (always 1080HD):
10.000kb/s, MPEG-1 -> MPEG-1 creates sharper videos than the Xvid codec but more artifacts. The size is at 72MB/m.
10.000kb/s, Xvid (my default setting) -> Artifacts and blurs on moving surfaces, 70,45MB/m.
15.000kb/s, Xvid -> Hardly visible artifacts but as blurry as 10.000kb/s
20.000kb/s, Xvid -> No visible artifacts but still not as sharp as the graphics in game, 133,68MB/m.
20.000kb/s, MPEG-1 -> No visible artifacts and the sharpest result of all, 138,8MB/m
30.000kbs, Xvid -> I had to watch the video several times and also do several cross comparisons with the 20000kb/s Xvid version and I seem to see a slight increase in sharpness but that's probably subjective, 203,79MB/m.
Finally I put it to the extreme with
100.000kbs, Xvid -> no visible difference to 30000kb/s but 608MB/m! Also the data transfer rate is so high that the game got frozen for a split second somehere in the middle of the test!
So my conclusion is that MPEG-1 with 20.000kb/s is the best choice.

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@srgt.scales: Thanks but what about the recording software, video encoder and settings? And what's also interesting me is how many MB per minute do your videos have in average? Mine are about 75.6MB/minute which is pretty much already, considering my internet provider contract allows for just 7.5MB/minute (1024kbit/s) upload speed.

EDIT: I have done some tests and here are the results (always 1080HD):

10.000kb/s, MPEG1 -> MPEG-1 creates sharper videos than the Xvid codec but more artifacts. The size is at 72MB/m.

10.000kb/s, Xvid (my default setting) -> Artifacts and blurs on moving surfaces, 70,45MB/m.

20.000kb/s, Xvid -> No visible artifacts but still not as sharp as the graphics in game, 133,68MB/m.

30.000kbs, Xvid -> I had to watch the video several times and also do several cross comparisons with the 20000kb/s version and I seem to see a slight increase in sharpness but that's probably subjective, 203,79MB/m.

Finally I put it to the extreme with

100.000kbs, Xvid -> no visible difference to 30000kb/s but 608MB/m!

So my conclusion is that Xvid with 20.000kb/s is the best choice. Maybe even 15.000kb/s is sufficient. I'm going to test this right now and report back.

im not for sure, couldnt tell you, in fraps everything is set to the highest and game setting are at medium, if this helps prob. dont but i get around 30 fps with a enb in, fyi i my self like to make videos with enbs in! SO it looks better.

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Thank you srgt.scales. :)

Your welcome glad to help!

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Well honestly not really. I was just trying to be polite.

See I don't have Fraps installed and so the information "Fraps settings to the highest" isn't helpful for me. I'd need values as I have provided for comparison.

But anyway, I have found suitable settings in the meantime. :)

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UPDATE: I have searched the YouTube help and found these settings instructions: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171?hl=en&ref_topic=2888648

According to this HD1080 videos use the MPEG 4 codec (is Xvid the same?) and just 8000kb/s.

The next thing I did was to record a video with these settings. Needles to say it doesn't look as good as the 20.000kb/s version BUT after uploading both there is no difference in quality anymore. That means the 20.000kb/s video has been re-rendered to 8000kb/s!

Conclusion: Just use 8000kb/s for videos which are supposed to be uploaded to YouTube. it doesn't get better anyway and you save a lot of local drive space.

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Ak ok cy!

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