LibertyDesigns

Guys, I see this turning into a crapshoot really quickly. The back and forth of screenshots is making it worse. I think we should just drop this or take it to DMs so we don't have a bunch of people chiming in. Cause this will go bad quickly if it's not taken into a private conversation. I am not taking sides on this by the way.

Everyone, please refrain from posting hostile comments to anyone. It makes things worse, much worse. If we all want to get anything fixed around here, going against anybody isn't going to help. Like Gio said, keep it civil or it's going away, and I have to respect that. I strongly suggest if you feel the need to leave a comment or message to anyone in this community, it's constructive and helpful. I do not condone the hatred to any member on any front, so please, let's work together, not against each other.

All I'm going to say about this is, the immaturity has caused much of this. Like stated in the podcast you may have heard, there are multiple factors that play in whether i'll return or not. If those factors are met in one month, than I guess that's when i'll return. I am not a person who writes a giant post like this one for attention. I did this to help change begin, and it looks like I did a pretty good job with that goal because quite a few other talented creators have left along with me and the site's owner just made a post talking about a few of the issues stated. If I haven't made it exceedingly clear and crisp before now, I will return when the issues stated in my post improve to my liking.

Very well said👍🏼

lol well, depends on what issue you look at. the stolen work is definitely on the players, yet the lack of action taken (from time to time) by staff is a site sided issue. I could go on, but the rest is pretty obvious

I completely understand where you're coming from with this. I'm not quitting, though it may seem like it, I'm not. I am going to continue to design things, but I am going to chose more carefully who I give it to. This way the mod can't be so easily abused. I'll be doing this via Discord in the future I do feel with the update where you have to download the file before reviewing was incredibly beneficial, the system is still easily abused, though. Sure, there's nothing we can do about it but look into the cases of misuse. The ripped off skins were reported to staff, homeboy cursed me out and called me some things for reporting his file, but he finally added me to the credits and I dropped the argument because it wasn't worth continuing. I know it was my work that he modified because it still had the watermark chopped up in the image file. In respect to the LSPDFR developers, they're very generous people, I concur with that. But I will say, that it has taken quite a long time for a new update. Sure, is that cockey? Maybe a little. While considering very many similar mods have been released within the time of the update, maybe not as cockey. I was just speaking my opinion on that though. I had no intent of demeaning their hours of hard work and dedication to that mod, because I seriously do appreciate how much they've put towards it. Now speaking on the topic of the moderator's mistreatment, I will not disclose the details. All I am saying is that it did happen, but you may not have heard about it if you were not in a certain loop. Like I said in the post, I really do like many of the site staff, they're helpful folks, it's really not all of them. Yes, I understand, people are nasty everywhere - not just here. What I'm saying is, as a community we need to come together to make that not as big of a problem. It's gotten so bad on my end and for others that I made the call to leave.

Thanks for your response. I understand there are challenges with moderation but at this point I think it's best for me to take a break. I strongly believe things will improve with time, and when they do, I may return. I look forward to the future of the mods on this site, as they have so much potential, thank you for your hard work with it so far. Much respect for your hard work and dedication to this awesome mod.

You'll be missed along with all other creators leaving.

I clearly said most of the staff are good people. I'm not stirring the pot. All I'm saying is, the poor choices of staff is a credible reason for me leaving. I have the full story of what happened, I wouldn't post something like this being uninformed.

LSPDFR Community and Whomever it may Concern, I've been around this site for a hot minute. I like to think I generally know what I'm doing when it comes to skin designing, among other things that have to do with GTA modding. In my time here, I've released exactly 81 files in just over a year of membership. That's more than most members here. I'm not saying I'm better, more qualified, or more talented than anyone else here, but I will say I have worked very hard to bring this community quality work the entire time I've been here. As of November 7th, 2018, the entirety of my file library will no longer be available on LCPDFR. Why I'm no longer sharing my files here: Rude & disrespectful members: Since starting this adventure about a year ago, I've met quite a few great people. Helpful people who give constructive feedback on my work. I've also come across people who have no regard for my intense effort to make high quality work. I've had people rip my designs, screenshots and abuse the LCPDFR review system because they didn't like my response to their rude comments, reviews, etc. For example, humans are not perfect, we all miss a few errors. If one of my screenshots has a bit too much saturation, I probably missed it, there's no need to leave a one star paragraph long essay on how much that one picture sucks. Then when I reply with something you don't like, you go and one star all of my other files, which is real mature. This is why we all can't get along, and it's annoying because if we could just learn to give constructive feedback, this wouldn't be an issue. Staff have treated members poorly: In the instance I heard about, a modeler I know of was treated unreasonably poorly by a member of the LCPDFR staff. I'm not here to stir more stuff up, but come on! I'm not getting into the specifics, because that's between the member and staff, but what I will say, being on the staff of a pretty large website, you should hold yourself to a higher standard. Don't curse people out because they let you know about something of concern on the site, instead, look at it in a professional manner - and deal with it in a professional manner. This isn't all of the staff, by the way. I have had many positive encounters with site staff, and they are great people! Lack of substantial new things: Yes, I understand that 0.4 is in development, near release and all. That being said, we've had the same general call-outs, scripts and such for a pretty extended amount of time. 0.3 brought many new and exiting things to this community when it was released in July 2016. Since then, we've seen the same tactics, maneuvers, and bugs over and over again. From the players' side, this should be understandable - as we all want new things to put in our game. From the developers' side, the prolonged wait is also understandable, adding many new things to the update that look like big mechanical changes. Adding ambient crimes, additional player/ped customization, menu options, etc. While this is all very cool, I personally don't think it takes 2 years to develop this. I've seen mods like "Stop The Ped" and "Interaction +" come out and be updated in a much shorter amount of time, and those plugins are considerably similar to the previewed content of the LSPDFR 0.4 release. I also understand the developers are making this in their own time, with little to no financial support. I know I'm not the only member who feels this way about the updates, or lack thereof. Stolen & misused content: I'm a pretty generous person. I don't charge you for me to design a skin going to a public release or to help develop something to better the community. But, when I'm generous enough to make you textures or something of the sort, I expect you to ask me before modifying the file I made you, I also expect credit for my work as well. I've had multiple occasions on this site where I make something for someone else, and they have either posted it without my permission, modified it without my permission, or sold it without my permission. Yeah, yeah - the site admin doesn't condone any form of financial transactions.... All I'm saying is, it's really not that hard to ask to do something with my work. Most of the time I'll let you post it, modify it, whatever, I just want to know you're doing so. But, when you don't credit me, and ignore my requests for credit for my own work - it makes me pretty angry. Members are just ugly to each other: I've been involved in, seen and heard of so much "drama" within this community. Why? We all literally make stuff for a $60 video game. What happens is one person gets too confident about their work, then other people get upset with that person, and arguments arise. It happens in intervals, too. It's a different set of people every time. When this happens, people just leave because they get fed up with this crap. It's like a country's revolution. In this case, it keeps happening over and over again. I'm sure i'm not the first one to point these problems out, but seriously, we all need to see that we have a common goal, and drop all of the pre-existing grudges - AND WORK TOGETHER! Finishing, I'm really not going after anybody, I don't want to start any drama. I wrote this and cleared my files because I want to see some positive change here. We're all getting tired of this toxic crap, and quite frankly, I don't think I'll be the only one to leave because of this. I think we would all like to see an improvement in how we treat each other. I'll be honest, there have been a few instances where I was somewhat rude to other members, but from those instances, I learned that it's only counter-productive to act that way. This will 110% be mis-understood, but just to be safe and repeat myself for the third time - I'm not targeting any single person in this post, I'm making this post because I want people to realize we need a positive change here, and hopefully this will help make people realize that. Closing: Thank you to all the people who helped me get where I am today. I'm not going offline, I'm just leaving this site. I'll still be on Discord and such. Again, thanks to the following people for their support, kind words and such, it doesn't go unnoticed. If you want to join my Discord, PM me since it's against guidelines to post it here. My Discord username is T. Jennings#1056 Regards, T. Jennings