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Posts posted by thegreathah
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Just now, Pricefield said:
Modding isn't officially allowed nor endorsed in any capacity - this goes with any and all GTA games. Remember how San Andreas was patched to prevent Hot Coffee from remaining a thing? This isn't new with Rockstar. If they're going to start going after people legally for modding, then it's their loss, both monetarily and in terms of their fanbase -- not ours.
It's definitely a loss to me. This is a fun hobby where I can actually do some creative stuff. It's really a loss all around, which is why, again, this makes no sense.
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2 minutes ago, Pricefield said:
This is not Rockstar's money, not their problem.
GTA V is on its way out. It is not a new title - in fact, it's quite old by the way that technology ages. Rockstar has already made their money on it.
That's my whole point. The general theory is that R* wants money from GTA V, but GTA VI development is in full swing. There are many who will not buy GTA titles in the future if modding isn't allowed in some capacity. And those YouTubers are generating money for R* and Take-Two. That's how I found out about this mod (Which is why I bought the game), and how many others did as well. All that contributes to R*'s bottom line and Take-Two's shareholders.
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3 minutes ago, Thero said:
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I am in 100% agreement. It baffled me that Take-Two (Who I'm sure have written a legal document or two) couldn't figure out proper grammar when sending this C&D in the first place. And that the OpenIV guys only reacted to it days later via update, with no warning, and just pretty much said "bye, see ya later".
My original crazy theory is that it was an attempt on GTA modding from another modder or developer to stop production of a competitor. (My theory is based on the dev for Police1013's interactions with this community, but it isn't wholly based on him.
And another thing. Why send a C&D to one modder, but randomly contact "Alex" (Who we still have no idea about), about changing game files 4 years after initial launch. This makes no sense.
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This reminds me of soon after the release of GTA V on PC. Early in summer (During the Steam Sales in fact), everything went on sale, as normal. Well instead of Take-Two, and really, Rockstar, making the game cheaper, they "Lowered the price" but added an insignificant amount of sharkcards to send the price right back up to 70 bucks. These people have been after the money the whole time. They don't give a shit about the community, they care about the profits.
This again, makes me reaffirm my position on the petition; it's important. We affect their bottom line. At the end of the day we matter.
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Just now, Izick said:
I don't agree with that. They are making money and will continue to make money from microtransactions in GTA:O. We are a small part of their consumer base and I don't believe they will bat an eye about is being upset they are trying to prevent modifying their game.
Maybe the LSPDFR community is a "small" portion of the consumer base, but this affects everyone who modifies their game. (Think about the views that JeffFaviagno, Polecat and others pull in on daily or bi-daily video uploads of this). Look at how large GTA5mods.com is; Many mods making it into the hundreds of thousands of downloads. That is a lot of money R* will lose in the future. Just because we are small compared to the Xbox or play station base, we also have been around for a long time, and we can make change happen.
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2 minutes ago, Izick said:
A petition isn't gonna change anything.
If there are enough consumers complaining, that will change things. We shouldn't just "sit back and take it". That approach will never win.
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5 minutes ago, rmckinstry said:
I get your point but at the same time we don't know if FiveM received it or not. They very well could have received one but are willing to duke it out in court
Maybe, but it would be an awful choice financially and legally for them to fight this in court (And we can be pretty certain that other mods such as Ragehook haven't received anything like this as they've put out updates since the C&D was said to have been sent). Fighting the legal battle would probably drag out thousands in legal fees alone. Nevermind an actual ruling. I know many people are saying "Well no judge will look at this and actually treat it as a real case." That's simply not the case. This is a copyright lawyer's dream case; people blatantly violating a EULA (Which is not necessarily legally binding in some jurisdictions, but can be enforced) and posting about it on the internet.
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1 minute ago, RekRam said:
fiveM could be next...u dont remember the previous mp client thats was shutted down by T2 months/year ago? .....
Very true. But my whole concern over the legitimacy of this supposed attack on OpenIV is why did R* send a C&D to them over a week ago, and nothing to FiveM (Which actually messes with Online shit) over the same course of time. It is all very suspicious to me.
Remain skeptical everyone.
Just now, rmckinstry said:Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that take2 has previously tried several times to take down FiveM but failed. Seems like FiveM is still willing to fight
In the past they successfully took down many multiplayer mods, or made them unusable. FiveM somehow avoided that (For now)
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Just now, phoenixpolice said:
Do you know if it was said by Rockstar or Take Two? I have a friend who wants to know.
This person and The OpenIV team have provided no evidence that anything was said by Take-Two or Rockstar. This could all be complete bs for all we know. Until I see the message to "Alex" (Whoever that is) and the C&D, I refuse to believe that Rockstar is actually cracking down on modding after 10 years of this. It makes no sense.
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1 minute ago, MrAnarchy said:
I know a lot of you'll around here are children and don't remember this, but this is similar to the Y2K scare - and we survived that. Yes, this is bad, but everyone needs to chill out and relax. This community is very large and filled with very intelligent people, modding isn't going anywhere and I am more than certain we will find ways to adapt.
Yes, I think this is the most important point that has been said.
Over the next few hours and days, people are going to speculate wildly about the future of both Open IV and GTA V in general. People need to relax. Everything should be taken with a grain of salt.
1 minute ago, RekRam said:Yes, I saw the forum topic, but it still provides little to no context for this message from Take-Two to this random GTA modder (If that's who Alex is). And he seems to be speculating that "entitled gta standard online pricks" ratted out the community when R* has been more than aware of this and other communities for years. I think this dude is just vying for attention.
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5 minutes ago, phoenixpolice said:
It wont work in the future though. Rumor is that GTA is changing file types in the next update.
I'm not touching that "announcement" with a 10 foot pole. I personally believe that is complete bull, created to incite fear among the modding community
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25 minutes ago, RekRam said:
ehhh i hope this ain't real
I have my skepticism about this information
1) Who is Alex?
2) Why are GTA Developers wasting time and money changing files or adding new files, especially because "Gunrunners" was rumored to be the last, or very close to being the last DLC?
3) Ventertainment has but one follower and 3 reputation. While I'm not saying everyone has to have a gazillion followers to be correct, there is almost no context to this note, and no one knows the person who posted, and even if some do, he isn't a big name creator or content moderator like Cyan, Rappo, or any other reputable person in the community.
4) Why is Take-Two personally messaging members of the community to notify them of this change? They didn't notify anyone of this supposed C&D (Which I also have doubts about). Why do it now?
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3 minutes ago, austinblue27 said:
I don't like how any of this is playing out. I mean, the only thing I have heard is what GooD-NTS has said on the forum. Not to mention the quote on the grammatical errors. It's especially odd, when a PC Gaming news site picks up the story and reaches out to GooD-NTS, Take 2, and Rockstar all for comment, and hears nothing back. How do we know this isn't some loser trying to get back at the modding community? How do we know this isn't just GooD-NTS wanting to quit working on OpenIV, but doesn't want to right out say it? For me, there isn't enough on the matter to form any feelings towards it. I'm very skeptical at the moment, and I hope more comes to light so we really know what's going on.
I was thinking the same exact thing. This all seems to come at a very suspicious time, with no real context to why all of a sudden this has become an issue (in terms of needing a cease and desist letter) for Take-Two.
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Done. I also think a tweeting campaign is in order. (@rockstargames)
This is something very odd with Take2. Many gaming companies (Especially open world games it would seem) are fairly open to the idea of modding. Some prime examples being Arma, 911:First Responders (Although the newer games aren't exactly mod friendly), Cities: Skylines, etc. All of these Devs seem to realize that modding keeps a game alive. I just can't believe that the GTA devs have failed to recognize how the modding community has kept these games alive for years after their expiration date.
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Jesus. I don't think I've seen something that horrific in terms of a taller building since, dare I say, 9/11. That is just awful.
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You can't install multiple vehicles into the same spot. Each vehicle "slot" is one vehicle, and newer patchdays override previous patchdays.
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I like those a lot!
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Hey everyone, long time no post. Sorry about that. Recently I got out of school and am on summer break, which means a ton more time for making and releasing vehicle models for you to enjoy/play with. Another reason I haven't been posting here is because it feels "impersonal". Since recently I have received an influx of messages in my inbox. It's harder for me to respond to these long, drawn out support requests on here and Steam, rather than on something like Discord, which feels much more personal and I have much more control. To remedy this loss of communication on this website, I have created a new discord, simply for sharing ideas, with me, with each other, etc. I'd also like to have a few new beta testers, and that will be figured out as well on the discord. It's just so much easier to talk to others on that platform. Here is a link if you'd like to join: https://discord.gg/YY6fcQ3 If not, that is fine as well, and you can still stay updated using mostly my gallery posts. My PMs are just too cluttered to effectively respond to everyone, even though I'd like to help everyone.
Another thing, you may have seen the 1? 2? pictures I posted of some new cars with the Legacy Light bar. Those are slated to come out very soon. I haven't quite decided what cars I want to put in the pack but as of right now:
2015 Tahoe (Done)
2013 Explorer (95% Done, Glass Cols aren't working for some reason)
2016 Taurus (95% Done, LODs need to be redone, and some other tidying up with the light package)
These will all have near identical light packages, for a nice, matched up police department pack.
And also, I finally fixed my extra_11 malfunction, so I will try to push updates out to the cars affected by that within the next few days.
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1 minute ago, Lundy said:
Just looks like another tasteless generic sedan imo.
You'll need a model of the car (since I know 99% of the people here can't scratch model anything bigger than a box for their life) that's unlocked for someone to convert.
Hey! I can model more than a box. I can model a massive square... Oh wait...
Anyway, Lundy is right, as far as I am aware an actual 3D model doesn't exist at least for GTA V as of now. You'll probably need to either buy and convert it, or pay someone to convert. Both of these would be expensive ventures to say the least, and for a car that really isn't used as a police car irl, it probably isn't worth the time, money, and effort. But if someone actually releases an unlocked 2017 Impala (Highly unlikely in the perm-crazy environment that GTA modding is) it would be super easy to convert into an unmarked, and it'd probably look pretty cool.
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25 minutes ago, Warwick said:
When I click on page 2, it shows ELS vehicles.
That's because the filter was activated after ELS was released, therefore most authors have not gone back to put it in correctly as the website can't distinguish ELS models from Non ELS models. Go to the page I linked and work backwards, it will give you much better results.
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Pretty much every model prior to December of last year is non-els. It is still the majority of vehicel models
Start at this page and go back from there: http://www.lcpdfr.com/downloads/gta5mods/vehiclemodels/?since=all_time&page=15


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