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  1. Ight y'all have fun dealing with this bullshit; I'm gonna go watch netflix and listen to county on my pager 🤷‍♀️

    Keep lying @Sam maybe one day you and your staff team will actually succeed at trying to bully people away from the "truth" you spew. 

    Fuck you guys. Ban me.

  2. Also @Sam just to be clear - I did not say he was necessarily STILL Banned -> I just said he [was] banned at the time -> for theft. So I just want to clear that up in case the confusion may be an expired ban since I really dont know if you guys unbanned him/he appealed/whatever the case may be.

  3. Just now, Sam said:

     

    If you're going to come on here and accuse me of lying, despite me telling you numerous times that you're misinformed, and despite you not providing any proof to the contrary, I would suggest you are not interested in the truth.

    I mean I can just post screenshots of the banned account; laugh at you for looking like a dumbass; or I can make you squirm like you already probably are; because you're realizing how little I give a damn about you; this site, or at this point any of this.

    So I tell ya what -> You can post your formal ban logs/warning logs/all administrative actions logs -> since you're willing to allow another user to post [literally] whatever they want about another user [i.e. you telling me to provide proof] I dont owe you dick sir 🙂 IF you're NOT opposed to ME posting it; why cant you? I am not staff here, so I have nothing to give you; I can challenge you in whatever way I see fit and as long as I maintain general courtesy and respectful nature -> I should [in theory] be fine -> Unless you wanna start [literally] banning for people speaking against you; 😄

  4. Just now, Cyan said:

    We actually checked against our system before we posted the initial reply to make sure. The user in question was never banned.

    Mkay 🙂 Thats fine, [lying] but its fine! I really dont care; I just love how aggressively you guys are trying to snuff out that part.... when in reality its very true that Fenix was banned [for taking the LS Source Code] which is logical 🤷‍♀️

  5. Just now, Sam said:

     

    Cyan already acknowledged what you or others said about Ezra.  I've already confirmed to you that the case you raised wasn't true and the member wasn't banned.

    What else do you want?

    I mean; you say he wasn't banned, and I know you're not correct [however] if you wish to stick with that; that's perfectly fine; a large portion of the community knows the truth; lying about it is counterintuitive since your ACTIONS were received with open arms by the entire community virtually -> not to mention the fact that [for the most part] its a logical response for you to defend your product [LSPDFR] what IS NOT logical is being willing to aggressively defend your product; and then fucking over by disregarding the theft of your sub-users products'. Either dont ban people or do ban people; you can't really justify the whole nonsense of picking & choosing based solely on its direct impact [to your product]

  6. Just now, Sam said:

     

    He's not banned.

    Okay 🤷‍♀️ Whatever you say boss.

    I love how you immediately defend your [own] [violated terms] actions

    > BUT > You wont address disregarding everyone elses being fucked over! Its cool though. Again you're showing your true colors as a staff team. 
    Especially [not relevant in my opinion as far as what I've been talking about specifically] -> @Ezra

  7. 1 minute ago, Cyan said:

    That user wasn't banned. I'm unsure what part of that you are failing to understand?

    The part where you guys are trying to lie and say he wasn't banned; when he definitely was! 🙂

    But its fine; I dont really care about LSPDFR anymore. MU is actually going to have a moral compass guiding the administration [therefore] you guys can just keep lying to everyone and watch you developer base dwindle into the MU Community 🤷‍♀️ I dont care. Play ignorant all you want.

  8. 1 minute ago, Sam said:

     

    Again, here we are.  People ask for a civil conversation, want to ask questions.  That's fine, I'm happy to answer questions.

    I'm not happy to be called a liar after doing so.

    If you dont wish to be called a liar sir; do not lie blatantly to a group of people who were supportive of your decision to BAN the user named.

    I dont have an issue that you BANNED Fenix :') I have an issue you're trying to deny it HERE because it would derail your argument.

    But its fine, your morals as a staff team show. 

     

    Also - I was not rude? I stated a fact; you are indeed a liar if you want to claim a ban that exists DOESNT simply to avoid the conflict you will have to acknowledge where your shortcoming now is.

  9. 1 minute ago, Sam said:

     

    I don't know about the ban because it doesn't exist.  I'm sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative.

    Then you sir, are a liar 🙂

     

    1 minute ago, Cyan said:

    We cannot control what people do with your mods (outside of the site) when you have made them public. I think that's what it really boils down to.

    Its the premise of them NOT actively trying either.

  10. 2 minutes ago, Cyan said:

    This is a public mod site. Let's say we did ban the member in question, hell let's even say we start requiring a membership.

    Do you really think it's that difficult to set up a fake account? Do you really think IP blocks are effective?

    We have had hugely persistent trolls over the ~10 years of running LCPDFR.com. In our experience, nothing will stop someone who wants to cause problems and damage.

     

    We GATHER that this is public..

    the ISSUE is you're not TRYING to resolve/protect your community; and for that; you're going to lose all the people who built you. Ironic how that works; you fuck everyone over who you should've protected [had the opportunity TO PROTECT] you fucking lost it.

  11. Just now, Sam said:

     

    All of it.  I won't comment on the moderation history of another member for obvious reasons, but we have never banned anyone for anything remotely close to what you describe.  

    I will respect your choice/discretion of not commenting on a users history - except [the only issue] either you dont know about the ban [which is plausible I suppose] or you're lying [equally plausible] given the current nature of morality justified by the staff here.

     

    Main reason - Fenix showed several people on the LSRD Support Team his banned LSPDFR Website Account. So... {And} The reason -> Was in fact -> "Theft" which would imply you actively administrated on his use of source code [found this part out later] because I was curious as to why he was banned.

  12. Just now, Cyan said:

    To add to what I said above, if somebody steals your work in some way, and re-uploads to LCPDFR.com that's something that we have full control over, and can completely own the situation.

     

    If someone downloads your files from LCPDFR.com, does whatever they do, and re-uploads it some Discord community or another site, what do you expect us to do?

    Anyone who has ran a community knows that banning is fairly ineffective for a persistent enemy, and even if we did ban someone for doing that, they could just change their IP and download it anonymously.

    @Cyan Okay - to [more clearly define a question]
    IF That is the case -> Right, LSRD was NOT reuploaded here; however, FENIX was in fact BANNED FOR his use of the source code from LSRD -> This was a big deal; the community as a whole rallied behind you guys and supported your decision to protect YOUR product; why are you guys NOT WILLING to protect everyone elses the way we backed y'all for protecting your own.

  13. Just now, TexasDesigns said:

    BUT! this kinda seems to be the general premise, either change the way how moderation works here OR we leave to MU. simple e-fucking-nough,

     

    Just now, RickG said:

    ITS HAPPENING ON YOUR SITE! They are DLing from HERE and ripping the models. What dont yall get!?

    Guys; theres no need getting aggressive; we have a fall back at this point; now its time to lobby for change or fucking deuce out;

     

    @TexasDesigns @RickG

    Just now, Cyan said:

    Our website is a website where anyone (account or not) can download files. What they do with those files after is completely out of our control.

    If you do want your files to be locked to a certain community, that's on you. But on LCPDFR.com, anyone can download files.

    @Cyan Alright sir, if that is in fact the case and point - then you should [in theory] also allow free speech [within reason] obviously to the degree of the people being fucked over having a right to be angry and actively protesting YOUR actions [your being staff not necessarily you specifically] or LACK THEREOF actions to address and detour/at least attempt to address and detour the actions pissing everyone off; which is 100% well within the staffs capabilities. 

  14. 1 minute ago, Cyan said:

    We don't deal with activities outside our site, it really does come down to that. There is no effective way we can police activity outside of it, as much as we'd want to.

    The only site I can think of that does punish users for actions that they perform outside of the website is Twitter, which gets constant issues with people claiming overzealous moderation.

     

    It is regrettable that one of our moderators expressed their own personal views on the matter, we don't advocate this position and will discuss this internally.

     

    We'll leave this thread open if you seriously want a discussion. If this ends up just a fest of name calling, and spamming website addresses, it will be closed per our site rules.

    SO per your site rules advertising of another community is [100%] punishable but theft [actual THEFT] of a product [via] your website [per] confession... is NOT something you guys are willing to administrate or address; where is the logic in that sir? I am not challenging you, truly genuinely inquiring. @Cyan

  15. So I generally dont do much up here, simply because of the politics; but a strong suggestion would be to not screw over the people that made this website, and service [as a whole] a thing.

     

    Biting the hand(s) that feed you is never a good route to take and its showing a lot of the morals this [community] of staff hold as to not pursue and penalize users they are aware are committing actual crimes simply because (you guys) say the actions occurring have no direct correlation to you. Morals are a very important part of life, if you will not have them; nobody will follow or support you; eventually you will crumble [as you already slowly are] and eventually you will become obsolete [as you already basically have] aside from a single modification [LSPDFR] which at this point is virtually obsolete since FiveM Exists; people would generally rather play roleplaying games with other people holding the same interest.

     

    So this is my goodbye to this community 🤷‍♀️ maybe one day you people at LSPDFR on the staff end will find morality and actively defend those who made you the once great powerhouse you were, maybe not, maybe you'll crumble and fall like most big communities; because at this point you're no longer a service; you are taking an active stand against the people who made you [anything worth while] and biting the hands [again] of those who fed/built this community to the extent it is at today.

     

    Goodbye.

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