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    MarginalButter reacted to LMS in LSPDFR 0.4 - Ambience   
    Partners are certainly something we would like to see in LSPDFR again. However, we also know about the difficulties of implementing it properly and want to take our time to get it right. Hopefully we have more to share on that sooner than later.
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    MarginalButter got a reaction from JohnBart in LSPDFR 0.4 - Ambience   
    Hot damn, the hype is higher than ever. Never been more hyped up for a mod, let alone a full game.
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    MarginalButter got a reaction from JohnBart in LSPDFR 0.4 - Ambience   
    Hot damn, the hype is higher than ever. Never been more hyped up for a mod, let alone a full game.
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    MarginalButter got a reaction from JohnBart in LSPDFR 0.4 - Ambience   
    Hot damn, the hype is higher than ever. Never been more hyped up for a mod, let alone a full game.
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    MarginalButter reacted to Sam in LSPDFR 0.4 - Ambience   
    This is the fifth and final part of our LSPDFR 0.4 Preview Series.  Not caught up yet?  Check out the rest of this series here: https://www.lcpdfr.com/forums/forum/880-news-updates/
     
    One of the things we like most about developing new versions of LSPDFR is that with each version we have the opportunity not only to work on major new features, but also the smaller details that our mods have come to be known for over the years.  Of course, 0.4 is no different in this regard and a lot has obviously changed since the early days of LSPDFR, offering us with a bunch of new ways to focus our attention to detail.
     
    More Realism
     
    Getting straight to the point, a significant change that we're making in 0.4 relates to how the player is perceived within the game's world.  Now, while this obviously isn't a sexy, new, video-worthy showstopper of a feature, it is nonetheless an important development behind-the-scenes - one that we think, despite its subtlety, will have a positive impact on your gameplay.
     
    In 0.4, you'll notice that while on duty, other characters within the world will treat and react to you differently.  As GTA V was never a game about being a cop, it's easily understandable that when you quite simplistically do become a cop - while keeping the underlying theme of the game - there's going to be things that don't feel quite right.  You might notice, for example, that other characters within the world are overly aggressive towards you, itching for a fight at the slightest confrontation, or sometimes in the absence of any confrontation at all.  Conversely, the opposite is often true where the most banal or routine encounter can send people hurrying away in abject panic.  Both of these reactions are problematic as people generally don't just spontaneously approach a cop and proceed to cuss them out, nor do they begin hysterically fleeing at the sight of a stun gun. 
     

     
    Stun gun hysteria and stampedes no longer, LSPDFR 0.4 introduces more 'contemporary' reactions, like everyone summoning their inner videographer.
     
    These adjustments to the game's core apply in a number of other cases too, of course.  We thought it was pretty unlikely that the typical reaction to a police officer standing in front of someone's car would be for the driver to flip them off, and then - as if that wasn't enough - to then run them over for good measure.  Likewise, it was always pretty ridiculous that you can't enter another police officer's car as a passenger without them freaking out and thinking that you're trying to steal it.  All of these behaviors have been adjusted, and we think that you'll feel far more like an actual cop within the world - rather than just a retired bank robber dressing up with a badge.
     
    And yes, while there are a number of mods out there that can help to mitigate many of the scenarios I've described above, they don't really offer a comprehensive and consistent solution simply due to technical restraints.  Our changes are at a much lower level and offer us a higher degree of control on a per-character basis.  This is great for flexibility and performance, and we think you'll really notice the difference when out and about on patrols.
     
    New Interaction Menu
     
    Sticking with the topic of small detail, increasing the level of interaction in LSPDFR is something that's very important to us - especially with the new focus on character in LSPDFR 0.4.  Indeed, we previously showed off a number of new interaction options that will be available during vehicle pursuits, but we've also taken the time to make big improvements to the more general Interaction Menu, offering you most of the features currently available in GTA Online, but with an LSPDFR twist.  Among the changes to the Interaction Menu are "quality of life" improvements like being able to quickly waypoint the nearest police station, as well as additions like new dialogue, actions and the ability to set your character's mood.
     
    Similarly, you can now also change the way that your character walks, but it doesn't quite stop there as in keeping with the general idea we outlined above of making the game feel more suited towards being a cop, there's a special "Cop" walk style that not only makes your character walk around like an officer, but also completely replaces their generic "idle" animations - subtle movements that your character makes while stationary - with more appropriate police styled ones.
     

     
    The more feature-complete Interaction Menu in LSPDFR 0.4 enhances your control, allowing for greater immersion.
     
    Additionally, we've carried over this level of detail to the Police Radio options too, replacing the static animation that currently plays in this menu with a number of different options that can be cycled between instead, including a nifty new LAPD style handheld radio (as well as the option to play no animation at all).  Again, this is a small detail, but we hope that the enhanced level of immersion will be welcomed - especially if playing as an FIB Agent and communicating via an earpiece instead of a shoulder mic, for example.
     

     
    New technology in LSPDFR 0.4 produces incredibly lifelike scenes - you can freely move while using the police radio without any animation issues like arms being locked in place, etc.
     
    Finally, still on the topic of detail, we've topped things off by adding a proper police flashlight to LSPDFR 0.4.  Yes, we know that there's a bunch of ways to use a flashlight currently whether it be the vanilla one that looks like it's straight out of a horror movie, or through other mods which suffer from animation problems, but ours is a little different.
     
    Already alluded to in the first preview we gave of LSPDFR 0.4, our flashlight is properly held above the head and can be used both by the player and other NPC officers.  It doesn't affect player movement, and you can freely walk, run, sprint, etc. while still holding the light.  If enabled, equipping it is a seamless process too - simply select the flashlight from the weapon wheel and LSPDFR will take care of the rest.
     

     
    The new flashlight in LSPDFR 0.4 tops off our efforts to bring more immersion and realism to the mod.
     
    Ambient Crime
     
    In our previous post detailing some of the technology behind LSPDFR 0.4, we mentioned that we had added Scenarios to 0.4 - scripted events that could take place during pursuits and traffic stops.  Similarly, we also noted that 0.4 introduces a new Crime System, capable of actually recognizing crimes that take place in the game world and providing functionality for the player to get involved by reporting these.   Expanding upon this idea, we wanted to make sure that we fully realised the ambient world that Grand Theft Auto V provides, and to do this we've manipulated a couple of lesser-used features within the original game.
     
    In the normal game, the player will sometimes be confronted by other characters within the world as a result of the agitation system built into the game which allows NPCs to insult or shove the player, for example.  In LSPDFR 0.4, as a result of some research by @LMS,  we've now been able to implement the same system, but for NPCs instead.  This means that NPCs can become agitated with each other, begin trading insults, get into angry shouting matches, or eventually, physical confrontations.  Plus, as these are actually 'legitimate' game events, other characters nearby will react appropriately, which also ties in really nicely with the Crime System and provides the player with something other to do than respond to dispatches or pull over vehicles - there's now hopefully much more actually happening within the world and consequently, more things for the player to notice while on patrol.
     

     
    Manipulating the game's agitation system results in a much richer world - seen here are two NPCs engaging in a spontaneous confrontation.
     
    Note that screenshots show LSPDFR player and non-player-characters wearing some outfits from EUP - which is entirely optional - special thanks to @Alex_Ashfold for his collaboration with us and for providing a development copy of EUP 8.0.
     
    Thanks for reading the preview.  We appreciate your patience as we put the finishing touches on LSPDFR 0.4 and hope to have more news soon.
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    MarginalButter reacted to Sam in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    I wish it was that simple!
     
     
    Heh, that would be fun.  Maybe someone who does ped models will try that at some point.
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    MarginalButter reacted to stickycabbage in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    the day this comes out is going to be christmas to me. especially if coastal callouts comes out the same week!
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    MarginalButter reacted to Giordano in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    0.4 is looking incredible, but the improved AI is definitely my favorite thing right now. ALL HAIL OTHER UNITS USING THE PIT!
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    MarginalButter got a reaction from Pipeline in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    So I was about to go to sleep.. then I saw this post... now I cannot sleep...😠
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    MarginalButter reacted to Sam in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    This is the fourth part of our LSPDFR 0.4 Preview Series.  Not caught up yet?  Check out the rest of this series here: https://www.lcpdfr.com/forums/forum/880-news-updates/
     
    It's probably the most critical component of the mod, so it follows that with any new version of LSPDFR, you can be pretty confident that the underlying systems which enable police pursuit gameplay will be updated.  LSPDFR 0.4 is, of course, no different in this regard, and following on with the general theme of 0.4's development (which is more less pulling everything out and ripping it to pieces), we've taken the opportunity to revamp much of the pursuit gameplay in the mod.
     
    As an aside, we had hoped to publish this preview at an earlier date but unfortunately due to both @LMS and myself being away from home, on various different continents in the past month or so this was a little difficult.  Nonetheless, we hope that you enjoy this preview and that it nicely illustrates just a couple of the changes that we've made to pursuits, as alluded to in our last post about AI improvements.
     
     
    Pursuit Interaction Menu
     
    Since LSPDFR 0.3, we've had an Interaction Menu, à la GTA Online, which has, as you would expect, facilitated interaction between you as a player and your character and their job as a cop.  While this is cool and all, there's definitely a number of areas where the interaction in LSPDFR falls a little short, with pursuits being perhaps the most obvious.
     
    In LCPDFR for GTA IV, there were a couple of toggles available during pursuits - notably the option to force or disable the usage of lethal force.  With 0.4, however, we think we've far surpassed that by introducing a handful of new options which definitely provide more control than ever.  
     

     
    The Pursuit Interaction Menu in LSPDFR 0.4 offers advanced controls for the current pursuit, as well as the ability to disengage.
     
    The cool thing about the new Interaction options for Pursuits is that it ties in nicely with the new customization options introduced in 0.4, and covered earlier in our previews.  So, not only can you define and configure law enforcement agencies to your liking, but you can also carry this through to pursuits too by designating a specific agency to handle the chase.  If, for example, a pursuit that starts in Los Santos crosses multiple jurisdictions then it's entirely probable that you'll end up with a number of agencies joining, which depending on the circumstances and/or your own preferences, might not be so desirable.  With the new Interaction options, you could simply specify that the initiating agency (i.e. the LSPD in this case) handles the pursuit, leaving the other agencies to mind their own business.
     
    Similarly, there's a lot of other practical usefulness be found in these options: we've brought back the ability to force on/off the usage of lethal force against pursuit suspects, and there's also the ability to enable or disable pursuit intervention tactics (more on these below).
     
    And of course, for those in search of the ultimate exercise in boredom (I mean, err, realism), then you might find that setting a pursuit into Tracking Mode - where ground units will hang back and follow from a distance, leaving your small air force of helicopters following above to do all the work in true Angeleno fashion - makes you feel so much more at home.
     
     
    Pursuit Intervention Techniques
     
    As alluded to above, LSPDFR 0.4 also introduces a number of changes to the artificial intelligence in pursuits.  Currently, the main tactic employed by NPCs in GTA V during pursuits is to rather aimlessly ram into the back of the suspect vehicle in the unrealistic belief that this is actually going to help end the pursuit.  Of course, this usually just results in the cop crashing into oblivion, and it looks really, really dumb too. 
     
    So, naturally, one of the coolest new additions to LSPDFR 0.4 is the implementation of a working PIT maneuver:
    Demonstration of NPC officers bringing a pursuit to a safe conclusion through successful usage of the new PIT maneuver in LSPDFR 0.4
    YouTube version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiFFFho3hd0
     
     
    As cool as this is, we know that NPCs performing PITs may not be to everyone's taste, and that it may not be suitable in every circumstance, so these can easily be enabled or disabled on-the-fly, during a pursuit, through the Interaction menu by changing the Tactics option.  If pursuit Tactics are disabled, pursuing NPCs will not attempt PIT maneuvers, and they will also shy away from most other advanced tactics, like blocking.
     

     
    A closer look at the termination of the pursuit, with the suspects surrendering, after a successful usage of the PIT maneuver.
     
     
    Air Support
     
    Throughout the history of our two mods, air support has always been a touchy subject.  For those of you who played LCPDFR, you will likely still carry with you many terrifying memories of those white and blue flying death machines.  In previous versions of LSPDFR, things generally weren't that much better either - especially when your pilot decides, in a moment of wisdom, that flying through the bridge, rather than over it, is the best course of action.
     
    With 0.4, we've taken the time to address some of the most frustrating issues with air support, with a particular focus on dramatically increasing both the usefulness, and lifespan, of our helicopters.  Specifically, you'll notice that helicopters in LSPDFR now fly at a much more realistic height and will properly increase or decrease their altitude as the situation requires, such as when a pursuit is passing through a heavily built up area.  They're also far more competent at actually keeping up with the suspects they are pursuing and will do so with a degree of intelligence, rather than just trying to fly directly above them.
     

     
    A watchful LSPD air support unit circles overhead, tracking as a suspect attempts to flee on foot.
     
    Furthermore, we've built in special modes for our air units, giving them the ability not only to follow suspects, but also to conduct searches over wide areas - something which is especially useful when ground units have lost visual, or are attempting to locate a target.
     
    In addition, our helicopters are also responsive to changes in the conditions of pursuits they follow - such as if a suspect is in a vehicle or not - and will adapt accordingly.  When tracking a suspect on foot, air units won't simply hover above them but will engage in a more realistic flying pattern where the aircraft seeks to maintain continuous movement, while operating varying angles to compensate for possible obstructions like buildings.
     

     
    Not a helicopter, but just in case you were wondering what happened to the guy pictured above...
     

     
    This, though, definitely is a helicopter.  It's also not flying at street level!
     
    As always, stay tuned for more news about LSPDFR 0.4 as we progress towards its completion.
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    MarginalButter reacted to Officer T. in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    Everytime you guys release a new update, I feel like a child on christmas evening 😄
    Keep up the good work, I'm really looking forward to lspdfr 0.4!
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    MarginalButter reacted to Oatmeal in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    Look good, glad you guys are making progress and can't wait to see the finished product. Keep up the good work 👍.
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    MarginalButter reacted to Pipeline in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    Good god, you guys made the police pursuit AI actually sensible in V? There's no other word for you, you're wizards.
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    MarginalButter reacted to SirNavarro in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    Amazing! Looking forward to it!
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    MarginalButter reacted to AussieGrillGamR in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    holy shit, this is amazing. Thanks for keeping us updated!
     
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    MarginalButter reacted to IdeallyStoddy in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    I'll admit, recently I've lost interest in LSPDFR due to frustrating things like incompetent AI and lack of variation in pursuits. However, this does look like a promising update and it makes me want to play it again. I also hope you've addressed the annoying issues in 0.3 like the AI doing u turns on highways and accidentally triggering a pursuit with a random civilian while there is one already active.
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    MarginalButter reacted to Rockstar support in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    Looking good can´t wait for the new update take your time 😉
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    MarginalButter reacted to Shaftoe in LSPDFR 0.4 - Pursuits & Intervention   
    Finally! And even more awesome that expected!
     
    I still hope there will be some integrated AI partner(s) feature...  
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    MarginalButter reacted to tommy94 in LSPDFR 0.4 - The Technology   
    Awesome, can't wait to play it. But guys if I could have any suggestions that could be acceptable it would be really nice, if it's can be done. I'm so sad that I don't have any skill or how and where to start trying anything about that, but if someone can teach-in me in a "fast way" that could be good if there's any opportunity for that. I'm new in community but being looking for this community to keep lcpdfr up-to-date with every possible mods that can the game with every even small step make role-playable. I mean, once I was turned on the game classicly as everyone of us, that don't need any intro of it. I gonna skip that all till to suggestions. Even they are maybe already done, but I did not even found them on this site in downloads. So if already exists sorry me. Every suggestion contained in this reply can be meant as a question for sure, I'm really newbie lol. 
     
    1st suggestion
    Going on-Duty
    - the paper work and brief 
    What about to start your duty in a office in an exactly selected area where you can always enter/exit a police station ? After choosing your character etc, you will leave the locker room and heading to the reception to check some boards (there could be made a marker, and after entering the marker there will start an animation (from a SimpleNative trainer I think, you can start and animation on scenario, and there's used a "clipboard animation" and appear some text with the main goals/objects (traffic stops, shop robbers....), what should be randomized. Or even from the marker accept an callout with homicide, murder, found dead body or authority callout. 
     
    2nd suggestion
    Homicide, Shop robbery, run over, hit and run
    - an interaction in the area with the witnesses, dead bodies, secure evidences
    After arriving on the scene, to make it more real, throw there some animation if its possible as they are shown on the screenshots. As on the screenshots you can see the selected animations for each operation that you can provide by giving an animation to the character with "medic kneel" animation to come closer to the dead body and investigate the body and the nearby area. Search the body for some information, ID and evidence (medic tend to dead) and then make some notes of the whole scene after these operations (medic time of death). Finally as a last operation is like a looking around the dead body and nearby to secure some other evidence if possible (police investigate).
     
    3rd suggestions
    This could be applicable I think on every type of callout what will come out from the official LSPDFR owners, founders, creators, developers etc, because as I noticed there are several another types of callouts from several different creative people but I think these things should be "scripted" in each callouts from every creator. 
     
    These are just my suggestions with deeper details, don't blame me pls





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    MarginalButter got a reaction from Atoyot86 in LSPDFR 0.4 - The Technology   
    Who else just wants that portable coffee where you are mid-drink then randomly get shot at, so you gotta just drop the coffee to shoot back, but then you are sad because you got no coffee so you just press O to get a new coffee and the world is saved.
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    MarginalButter reacted to IdeallyStoddy in LSPDFR 0.4 - The Technology   
    Will we be able to see a video preview of the new pursuit AI in action or will it just be screenshots? Looking forward to see how much the AI has changed in this version, a competent AI will be a game changer for sure.
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    MarginalButter got a reaction from theninja35 in LSPDFR 0.4 - The Technology   
    Completely forgot that even existed rip
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    MarginalButter got a reaction from theninja35 in LSPDFR 0.4 - The Technology   
    Completely forgot that even existed rip
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    MarginalButter got a reaction from Atoyot86 in LSPDFR 0.4 - The Technology   
    Who else just wants that portable coffee where you are mid-drink then randomly get shot at, so you gotta just drop the coffee to shoot back, but then you are sad because you got no coffee so you just press O to get a new coffee and the world is saved.
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    MarginalButter got a reaction from Atoyot86 in LSPDFR 0.4 - The Technology   
    Who else just wants that portable coffee where you are mid-drink then randomly get shot at, so you gotta just drop the coffee to shoot back, but then you are sad because you got no coffee so you just press O to get a new coffee and the world is saved.
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