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  1. Someone is hacking my computer. I WENT to check my facebook today and someone said that my profile said that I sent them this message when I never actually did:

     

     

    I- Information

    A- Awesome

    M- meek

     

    I-Intelligent

    S-Strong

    I-intellectual

    S- super 

     

  2. Depends what you mean by "observe". I'll assume you mean watching the police perform their duties at some situation, then yeah, that's perfectly fine. Just don't get too close.

    But i'm sure you should know the difference between observing and interfering.

    Could I get close enough to hear whats going on. Maybe 10 feet or so. To ensure the citizen was being treated fairly?

  3. Like I said to someone in another thread here just because I am giving a justification for the officer's actions doesn't mean I agree with it I am simply stating what the law says. Do I think he handled it appropriately? Some of it, but there were definitely some things that he could have done a lot better.

    You obviously didn't read the case law I told you about. It pretty much says that if an officer asks you to step out of the vehicle you have to comply.

    Glad you have those things going for you, I really don't care about any teams or whatever you have going on. I know that you are trying to troll me so I'm just going to go on my merry way, have a nice day.

    You believe what you will.  You'll see soon. But a wise person always told me "never let left know what your right is doing"  Sayonara buddy.  

  4. I don't think at this point in time that anyone really takes anything you say seriously, if anything reading your spiel is a bit of a giggle. 

    :) I think you're trying to convince me that that is the case.  However, if it is infact the case your ignorance and closed eye's simply helps my cause.  Keep giggling we'll keep growing. 

    Have a wonderful day Mate.

  5. Okay, you know what, its time for you to take a break from this topic ODonnell.  You have this amazing ability to consistently deliver your spiel about private police forces despite it being completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

    Kinda looks to me like the cop was totally wrong here.  He asked her to put out the cigarette, she refused.  Looks like he got pissed by this refusal and did some "step out of the car" power play.  I can't see any other reason as to why he's ordered her out of the car, and everything seems to point to it being simply an angry reaction. 

    No idea what he's talking about when he says he tried to calm her down and de-escalate the situation either?  If that's his idea of de-escalation, he needs to go back to the academy, asap.

    :) Wonderful. I thought I was the only one. 

    Go read Pennsylvania v. Mimms, I already had this discussion with someone else. The US Supreme Court ruled that it is legal for an officer to ask you to step out of the car and you have to comply.

    I'm not even going to bother responding to the rest of your posts as they are absolutely absurd and most likely just a troll attempt to get a reaction from people. The sole piece of "evidence" this case relies on is the family saying "she would never do this". I am sorry for their loss but that is no reason to accuse the officers of a crime with no evidence. If you truly believe the conspiracy theories you are posting then I feel sorry for you.

    :) Dude who gives a lying rats behind. I am all for following the law if its necessary however, for what reason did he have to order her out of the vehicle? If she was suspicious looking he would have surely ordered her out sooner. His only reason was because he didn't like the way she spoke to him and refused to circum to his power struggle. Now where in the law does it condone that? You know I am so happy GOD took my opportunity away to join these guys. I honestly think I was way to good for them anyhow.  I would have been a real officer not a thug. But again private forces are coming to a state near you so far  we have:

    a team called "copblock"

    "Open carry texas"

    we are trying to get occupy wall street states except NY of course.

    and all other of the "open carry" states.

     

    In other words:

     

    :) see ya soon.

  6. What does race have to do with anything? this situations was never created over the colour of her skin. it happened over an attitude she gave him, which pissed him off. this whole incident still would've happened if she was a different race. 

    and honestly, there already is a "private police force to police the police" it's called IA (Internal Affairs). Again it was a death in police custody, but it wasn't caused by police. Don't just watch a video, find out a black person was arrested by police and died in custody and instantly assume it was murder. There is no evidence to suggest it was murder and was deemed a Suicide by the Coroners office. Like i said before, follow the evidence and don't jump to conclusions. 

    First off sir. Your point did nothing but prove my point. He had an issue with her attitude.  This did not give him authority to demand she get out of the car. He's an officer not GOD. Secondly he instructed her to put out her cigarette. Again shouldn't he had of been writing that citation? Funny thing :) I just discussed this same video with a Philadelphia Police officer who said the same thing. The officer should have written the ticket a proceeded on his way. His words were if her attitude didn't posses any sort of criminal behavior or threat to me who cares what she says. This is a clear case of wanting to feel powerful. Again Form private police forces.  IA isn't good enough.  black officers to save black lives. We want nothing that this government backs. Also I will never trust any police officer or any governmental group founded by this country. She was said to be eating at 7 am and dies 9 am. Where's the video of her in her cell.  Also there's a video of the stretcher. Pictures were taken of that probably to show that medics arrived. Where's the pics of inside showing inside the cell? The coroners only determined strangulation not suicide. What I think happened was that African America officer along with others had a tough time keeping her quiet. And an argument broke out where she was abused and murdered. They covered it up to make it look like suicide. I know cells are supposed to have camera's correct? If so who's monitoring them? Shouldn't someone had of caught her  in the act? :) cover up Murder sticking with it.

  7. He used her irritation to his advantage. He stated in the video that he was going to giver her a warning How? With his ticket book out. Next he already stated I am giving you a citation for failure to yield. What warning? Also notice how he instructed her to put her cigarette out. Why? does she not have a right to smoke in her vehicle? Especially since you were so called only giving her a warning? People trend to smoke when they are either nervous or stressed She already answered his question. From that point I would have simply written the ticket and moved along. He felt he should have been talked to a certain way by that black woman that is why he got angry. Power struggle. These are phys co maniacs in uniform. Sociopaths.

    Private police forces. To police the police. Not to arrest or harm them but ensure the follow proper protocol. These deaths need to be reduced. There is no law preventing private police forces.

  8. I'm not a police officer, and I believe in holding public officials and police to a higher standard. I don't, however, believe in the notion that we should label people under a huge umbrella and say that "since x happened everyone who has the same job is also capable of x, therefore we should preemptively assume they will do x given the opportunity". It's an illogical (and frankly un-american) point of view. That's all I'm going to say on this.

    I don't want to make assumptions as to the circumstances of your friendships, but I can tell you that I would genuinely rethink who I consider a friend if any one of them was convicted of a felony regardless of how long I knew them.

    :) Then you were never a friend to began with.  A s a friend I would never suggest you agree with me or except my mistake, however if one is truly a friend and posses a deep love for me as a friend, my mistake should not remove the love so quickly. 

    There is one situation in which law enforcement officers have a license to kill: when carrying out a death sentence. Any other time, it must be justified by the officer: self-defense, defense of others, preventing the escape of a dangerous criminal, and preventing the escape of a prisoner (in some circumstances). The first two are options for everyone; I'm not sure about the latter two.

    @NYPDDetectiveODonnell: I'm really not sure what you're trying to say about cops, but any cop who prioritizes state laws over federal is violating his oath. The oath taken by every police officer binds them to uphold the United States Constitution, and the US Constitution and laws made pursuant to it are supreme over all state laws and everything in any state constitution. There is little difference between a "public official" and a "government official;" one definition of "public" given by Merriam-Webster is "of or relating to a government," and the OED says "public" in the sense of "public servant" means "Serving the public in a professional capacity; (in later use) spec. employed by local or central government." The term "police" itself literally derives from a Latin and ultimately ancient Greek root relating to government ("police," "policy," "politics," "polity," are all related terms).

    I don't find it odd in the least that someone who was a close friend in high school would not remain close once your lives took very different turns. Neither of you is the same person you were in high school, and you are likely not his only friend. I have people I was friends with for 7-ish years in middle and high school who I don't talk to anymore, for the sole reason that we went away to college in different places and are making new sets of friends.

    :) I don't find it odd in the least that someone who was a close friend in high school would not remain close once your lives took very different turns. Neither of you is the same person you were in high school, and you are likely not his only friend. I have people I was friends with for 7-ish years in middle and high school who I don't talk to anymore, for the sole reason that we went away to college in different places and are making new sets of friends.

    If this is true, then you wasted 7 years. On the other hand he and I were more so brothers. We did everything together, I slept over at his place on weekends and vice versa. Most of his friends now, are police officers. Still don't find that odd?

    All-In-all I would never trust a person with power to force a people.  A police officer's job is not to create bad guys, but rather find those who insist on being bad guys.  By creating bad guys I mean certain operation like "bait car" senseless operation. You intentionally leave a perfectly good vehicle unlocked door open keys in the ignition and expect no one to pursuit it?  Then chase them down and arrest them when you could have been solving a woman being beaten by her boyfriend, or a shots fired call? Wow.  Any department capable of this is obvious seeing no action and is bored. 

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    "License to Kill", in the sense you are describing, is most aptly attributed to the rules of engagement of a soldier in a foreign, hostile land rather than a police officer of any jurisdiction in the United States. "Deadly Force", which is arguably under the umbrella of that dramatic term you are fond of, is applied to law enforcement when an officer is met with a situation where he could prevent harm to himself or others by discharging his weapon. I stand by my argument that most of the time it is not intentional abuse of power, but rather poor training and nerves. The failure to prosecute the legitimate abuse of power, however, is a failure of the courts and society, and not any individual person.

    All government officials ARE public officials. Even the ones in those super-secret agencies like the NSA. They are all subject to some form of government oversight, even if it isn't directly from the population but rather from some publicly elected official. That's how republics work.

     

    I don't doubt you, or anyone, prefers it when our police officers follow the rules. However, like anything anywhere, there will be people who don't. They are not, however, as commonplace as you'd think. At the very least we should give our police officers the benefit of the doubt; just as we should anyone accused with a crime. In the United States it is "innocent until proven guilty", after all.

    You should always strive to have all the facts before making an argument. To do otherwise not only fails yourself and your opinions, but it detracts from your entire side's credibility. To quickly judge wrongdoing with minimal facts and evidence delivers injustice to the innocent and wrongly accused and hides the guilty from the consequences. You should consider your arguments closely, always.

    To finish off my point, private police forces have lead to poor oversight, rampant corruption, and heavy injustice in the past. I point to the Pinkerton Detective Agency and the Homestead Strike and the ensuing chaos and death that resulted. In fact, one could argue that the police force in the US is what you describe, in that it is formed and funded by city and county agencies that are paid for and derive their authority from the people in that jurisdiction (through taxes and elections). 

    In closing, you have no real bearing on the realities of this situation and have become brainwashed into your current biases. Not only that, but your passive-aggressive tone and lack of concrete argument, as well as your instantiation of Godwin's Law, does you a great disservice.

     

     

    I agree. We can't tell exactly what happens from that video, and it is unlikely that a police officer would kill her in the jail cell (how he could even do so without anyone seeing him is also something to think about). I don't know why she would kill herself - or even if it was intentional - and I agree that you can't apply logic to that sort of thing. It is a tragedy, though, and I'm sorry that it happened.

    OH come on don't be naive. There are all sorts of video's on Youtube that show police officers abusing their powers. Heck there are video where good police officers catch bad police officers speeding, sleeping on the job etc..... Come on. Police officers are not GOD  neither are they exempt to tribulations humankind has to face. The problem I have with police is their inability to be honest even when caught red handed.  If the C.I.A. had involvement is contra cocaine bust, then you honestly believe that police officers can't be just as crooked? LOL you guys must be officers yourself. 

     

    I have a buddy in the police force who in high school we were the best of friends, we both wanted to become police officers it was our dream. Although mine was destroyed, he successfully completed his(which I am seriously proud of him for)  However he stressed to me that things would never be how it was due to the fact that I am a felon. He stated that most officers are not allowed to have relationships with felons of my sort.  In other words he tossed away 8 years of friendship.  What people would suggest this? How can socalled good guys behave that way? 

    • Oh, yes: "The Study". A concrete proof if ever there was one. 
    • What, exactly, is this evidence? There is, quite literally, zero evidence of anything regarding police corruption in either that article or your statements.
    • Mexico is different from the United States. Quite different, actually - especially concerning corruption and police activities. You also fail to cite any source here.
    • No police officer in the United States has a "license to kill". Hell, they are held to the same exact criteria concerning murder and self defense as the general population. I believe most of the time an officer has to shoot someone its because he was poorly trained and is just too damn nervous. This doesn't excuse murder, however, and a failure to prosecute an officer of the law for murdering someone is absolutely more the fault of the courts and society than any accused officer.

    At any rate, you're arguments are borderline absurd. You're obviously biased, for whatever reason, and fail to understand the importance of citing concrete sources in any argument. I'd recommend you take a step back and research a bit more before being so quick to judge.

     

    :) First off When I said mexico I was referring to New Mexico, sorry didn't know I had to that simplistic. 

    License to kill is the official sanction by a government to a particular operative or employee to initiate the use of lethal force in the delivery of their objectives, well known as a literary device used in espionage fiction. The initiation of lethal force is in comparison to the use of lethal force in self-defense or the protection of life.

    The legitimacy of deadly force usage from country to country is generally controlled by statute law, particular and direct executive orders, the common law, or rules of engagement.

     

    Police are no longer public officials, but rather government officials. They have become a secret society with a secret agenda. The people no longer pay their taxes, the state or government does. :) Didn't think I knew that huh? I have my own fences. 

     

    I have found that the culture that exists in the world of police work fosters distrust. They see the average citizen as the enemy. In my experience, I have known very very few police officers who even bother to be polite to people, even when there is no investigation going on. I have personally been subjected to non-justifiable harassment as well as what could only be construed as false imprisonment. The charges were summarily dropped by the DA, because they were transparently false, but they still came back to haunt me later in life. I have come to believe that the only officer of the law who does not abuse their power is the rookie, and he or she simply hasn't had the time to get used to the fact that all the senior officers would rather shoot someone than take a punch.

     

    I am not biased, however neither am I blind or ignorant.  I am for any police officer who is pro life, and pro Constitution.  I do favor police officer who put state statues over federal law. 

     

    I'd recommend you take a step back and research a bit more before being so quick to judge.

    :) Yeah I'll consider this when you show me an officer who does this. 

     

    You are all part of the same team. The solution to  these nazi's would be for all Citizens who understand my point to form and fund private police forces. 

     

     

  10. I don't have to say on what conditions. If the law states it as a felony, it should apply. I did not abandon it, I believe if that's what is written in the law, that's how it should be. Not based on circumstances. I'm not one to let relatives change my opinions due to their support of something. If my parents decided to support something, I wouldn't act with them. If I myself agreed, I may, but If i don't agree, I wouldn't. But let's stay out of our personal lives. I don't appreciate being called out due to my point of view. You can keep that to yourself. No need to start an argument. I've left this in the hands of the staff team to see what they'd like to do with our little conversation.

    I wasn't insulting you based on your position. I was simply defending my position.  I think you would agree that if a person stands for something they will defend it the fullest degree. Thus why we sort had a debate.  I never once insulted you, or used any sort of profanity against you.

  11. Okay. Not to sound offensive, but I find your story preposterous, you should've reported it to IAB. Anyways this still does not give  the woman a reason to be resistant towards the officer, also where is the proof that officers often abuse their power? 

    :) Sir are you aware of how many officer's end up in prison? The study says 1 out of 3. That is high considering that they are sworn officials who's sole purpose is to protect the country from terror. I would say there should be none in prison. This is evidence that they abuse their power. What about the officer in mexico that raped a woman. He got life behind bars. Giving a badge and a license to control population and kill to any human leaves room or opportunity  for abuse sir.

  12. Oh, so my thoughts represent the entire opinion of the US itself? You're acting no different than a bigot itself.

    I recommend we both get off each-others necks now before one of us starts something we shouldn't and get this topic sanctioned. You're asking for help signing a petition, and I may not agree with what you're trying to do, it doesn't mean we should start lashing out on each other.

    :) Sir no offense but Most American's would agree with you and pass, why because Americans tend to prejudge its that simple. You didn't once say "well Its depends on the conditions behind the felon, or hmmm maybe if he/she are serious enough. You simply just abandoned the opportunity in general. I bet if it were your mother, or close relatives looking to change you'd support them. But I know you will come back with this: "My mother and close relatives aren't felons so"..... But OK I'll get off of your neck from the looks of things this seems to be too much pressure for your neck to hold up. :) Thanks for your thoughts however.

     

    Also to the LCPDFR staff I totally meant no offense by this whatsoever. 

  13. Okay let me ask you this, what reason did she have to not use her turn signal and for being disruptive? 

    Well sir maybe it was broken. As human being we all forget to do the simple things from time to time. However I think you'll find that little reason like this have been allowing police to abuse their powers.  True story I remember being stop by some detectives 2 years ago on a routine stop and frisk. in NYC of course. They began frisking me  in which I  allowed an cooperated. One of the officers began to rub my testicles naturally I jumped because I knew that wasn't typical. When I jumped he began shouting "quit resisting" he then  use alot more force than he should have.  point is whether or not you choose to acknowledge it, police do infact abuse their powers; and alot often than they should. They suffer from all sorts of mental issue's and who wouldn't the things they have to see would do it to anyone. But something needs to be done. 

  14. Lol, nice troll attempt. Unless of course you are actually serious, in which case I would like to know what evidence you have that says this was a murder other than the family's evidence of "my son/daughter would never do that".

    The only evidence I need at the moment is the fact that Her family in which are very close sources  has stated That she never would have committed suicide. She wasn't that type of individual. Also Commit suicide for what? She wasn't serving a life sentence. If  its logical enough to form a case then there's suspicion.

    Well let's not forget the family is saying that is wrong because the girl was going to college, you know the good old "my daughter was a good college student" argument. 

    To what reason would she take her life in prison? She wasn't serving a life sentence.

  15. I am so ashamed of this country. Its amazing how wonderful countries like Britain posses the ability to allow second chances, but a so called country like the USA has always been judgmental, discriminating, and racist, and hypocritical. What has it gotten this country? Nowhere still one of the worst countries in The world.

    I think I'll pass on this one.

    :) I bet you're an American. But don't worry its perfectly typical for you. 

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