Badge744 3 Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) Hello LSPDFR community! I recently bought GTA V via Steam so I would be able to use this mod. After getting everything installed via the requirements checklist, I can't seem to get the mod itself to activate even though both the RageHook Plugin and GTA V run normally. No way to go on duty, and police stations do not show up on my map. Can't seem to find a fix, I have run the troubleshooter by Albo1125 with no errors detected. PC Specs: i3-4130 3.40 Ghz GTX 750ti SC 16GB Memory Any help would be greatly appreciated, I'm very much looking forward to running LSPDFR. Attached is my GTA Root Folder Located in Computer - C - Program Files x86 - Steam - SteamApps - Common - Grand Theft Auto V Best, Badge744 Edited January 2, 2016 by Badge744 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boshy 30 Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) Badge I noticed in your root that RPH produced a log text document. Can you post that so other users can perhaps take a look. Edited January 2, 2016 by Boshy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge744 3 Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) Attached is the Log, not positive but I am pretty sure it was generated due to the fact LSPDFR includes an older version old RPH because I installed version 29 and the unhandled exeption error did not continue. It looks to me like this issue was unrelated to the problems that I am experiencing now. I will add that I was having some difficulty installing C ++ Redistributable and had to uninstall/reinstall a few times, but as far as I can tall it is working ok now. I have noticed a lot of users are reporting this same problem. Could it be something that has changed over the last few days? Any ideas for a fix? Best, Badge744 Spoiler [1/1/2016 2:58:58 PM.801] Started new log on 1/1/2016 2:58:58 PM.801 [1/1/2016 2:58:58 PM.812] ==================================================================================================== [1/1/2016 2:58:58 PM.780] Log path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Grand Theft Auto V\RagePluginHook.log [1/1/2016 2:58:58 PM.819] Log verbosity: Verbose [1/1/2016 2:58:58 PM.830] Initializing input system [1/1/2016 2:58:58 PM.877] Initializing game console [1/1/2016 2:58:58 PM.931] Console key has been set to F4 (key code: 115) [1/1/2016 2:58:59 PM.060] Console initialized [1/1/2016 2:58:59 PM.061] Initializing forms manager [1/1/2016 2:58:59 PM.092] Version: RAGE Plugin Hook v0.20.641.4077 PUBLIC ALPHA for Grand Theft Auto V [1/1/2016 2:58:59 PM.125] ================ RAGE Plugin Hook ================ [1/1/2016 2:58:59 PM.128] Checking game support [1/1/2016 2:58:59 PM.201] Product name: Grand Theft Auto V [1/1/2016 2:58:59 PM.201] Product version: 1.0.573.1 [1/1/2016 2:58:59 PM.201] Is steam version: True [1/1/2016 2:58:59 PM.786] Unknown game version, there might be issues. Please report your game edition, place of purchase, and region at http://forums.ragepluginhook.net [1/1/2016 2:58:59 PM.786] Initializing game support [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.472] [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.472] ============================== [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.472] UNHANDLED EXCEPTION OCCURRED [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.472] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.472] Origin: HOOK [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.472] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.472] Exception type: System.NullReferenceException [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.472] Exception message: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.472] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.472] Inner exceptions: [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.472] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.472] Stack trace: [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.500] at InitializeGameSupport() [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.500] ============================== [1/1/2016 2:59:00 PM.500] [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.731] [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.732] [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.732] [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.732] ==================================================================================================== [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.732] Started new log on 1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.731 [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.732] ==================================================================================================== [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.725] Log path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Grand Theft Auto V\RagePluginHook.log [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.732] Log verbosity: Verbose [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.734] Initializing input system [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.872] Initializing game console [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.880] Console key has been set to F4 (key code: 115) [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.912] Console initialized [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.912] Initializing forms manager [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.917] Version: RAGE Plugin Hook v0.20.641.4077 PUBLIC ALPHA for Grand Theft Auto V [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.936] ================ RAGE Plugin Hook ================ [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.938] Checking game support [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.955] Product name: Grand Theft Auto V [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.955] Product version: 1.0.573.1 [1/1/2016 2:59:55 PM.955] Is steam version: True [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.151] Unknown game version, there might be issues. Please report your game edition, place of purchase, and region at http://forums.ragepluginhook.net [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.151] Initializing game support [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.408] [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.408] ============================== [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.408] UNHANDLED EXCEPTION OCCURRED [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.408] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.408] Origin: HOOK [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.408] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.408] Exception type: System.NullReferenceException [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.408] Exception message: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.408] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.408] Inner exceptions: [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.408] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.408] Stack trace: [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.410] at InitializeGameSupport() [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.410] ============================== [1/1/2016 2:59:56 PM.410] [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.662] [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.663] [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.663] [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.663] ==================================================================================================== [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.663] Started new log on 1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.662 [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.663] ==================================================================================================== [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.657] Log path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Grand Theft Auto V\RagePluginHook.log [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.663] Log verbosity: Verbose [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.665] Initializing input system [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.748] Initializing game console [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.756] Console key has been set to F4 (key code: 115) [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.792] Console initialized [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.792] Initializing forms manager [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.796] Version: RAGE Plugin Hook v0.20.641.4077 PUBLIC ALPHA for Grand Theft Auto V [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.813] ================ RAGE Plugin Hook ================ [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.815] Checking game support [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.833] Product name: Grand Theft Auto V [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.833] Product version: 1.0.573.1 [1/1/2016 3:01:35 PM.833] Is steam version: True [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.033] Unknown game version, there might be issues. Please report your game edition, place of purchase, and region at http://forums.ragepluginhook.net [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.033] Initializing game support [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.294] [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.294] ============================== [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.294] UNHANDLED EXCEPTION OCCURRED [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.294] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.294] Origin: HOOK [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.294] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.294] Exception type: System.NullReferenceException [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.294] Exception message: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.294] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.294] Inner exceptions: [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.294] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.294] Stack trace: [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.295] at InitializeGameSupport() [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.295] ============================== [1/1/2016 3:01:36 PM.295] [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.040] [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.042] [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.042] [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.042] ==================================================================================================== [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.042] Started new log on 1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.040 [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.042] ==================================================================================================== [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.036] Log path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Grand Theft Auto V\RagePluginHook.log [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.042] Log verbosity: Verbose [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.044] Initializing input system [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.048] Initializing game console [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.056] Console key has been set to F4 (key code: 115) [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.088] Console initialized [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.088] Initializing forms manager [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.092] Version: RAGE Plugin Hook v0.20.641.4077 PUBLIC ALPHA for Grand Theft Auto V [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.102] ================ RAGE Plugin Hook ================ [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.104] Checking game support [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.116] Product name: Grand Theft Auto V [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.116] Product version: 1.0.573.1 [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.116] Is steam version: True [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.354] Unknown game version, there might be issues. Please report your game edition, place of purchase, and region at http://forums.ragepluginhook.net [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.354] Initializing game support [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.498] [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.498] ============================== [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.498] UNHANDLED EXCEPTION OCCURRED [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.498] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.498] Origin: HOOK [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.498] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.498] Exception type: System.NullReferenceException [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.498] Exception message: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.498] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.498] Inner exceptions: [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.498] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.498] Stack trace: [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.499] at InitializeGameSupport() [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.499] ============================== [1/1/2016 3:06:26 PM.499] [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.012] [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.014] [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.014] [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.014] ==================================================================================================== [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.014] Started new log on 1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.012 [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.014] ==================================================================================================== [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.006] Log path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Grand Theft Auto V\RagePluginHook.log [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.014] Log verbosity: Verbose [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.018] Initializing input system [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.023] Initializing game console [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.034] Console key has been set to F4 (key code: 115) [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.078] Console initialized [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.078] Initializing forms manager [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.087] Version: RAGE Plugin Hook v0.20.641.4077 PUBLIC ALPHA for Grand Theft Auto V [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.105] ================ RAGE Plugin Hook ================ [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.108] Checking game support [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.135] Product name: Grand Theft Auto V [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.135] Product version: 1.0.573.1 [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.135] Is steam version: True [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.363] Unknown game version, there might be issues. Please report your game edition, place of purchase, and region at http://forums.ragepluginhook.net [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.363] Initializing game support [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.507] [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.507] ============================== [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.507] UNHANDLED EXCEPTION OCCURRED [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.507] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.507] Origin: HOOK [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.507] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.507] Exception type: System.NullReferenceException [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.507] Exception message: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.507] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.507] Inner exceptions: [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.507] ------------------------------ [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.507] Stack trace: [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.508] at InitializeGameSupport() [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.508] ============================== [1/1/2016 3:10:21 PM.508] Edited January 3, 2016 by Badge744 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boshy 30 Posted January 3, 2016 if you have v.29 you should post that log because that log crash report was caused by the older RPH version Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge744 3 Posted January 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, Boshy said: if you have v.29 you should post that log because that log crash report was caused by the older RPH version Where can I find that? For some reason this is the only log there is as far as I can see. When I installed version 29 I just unzipped and overrode all of the v20 files. I also want to add that nothing happens when I press F4 while in-game, I have also tried running it with my anti-virus system turned off with no change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilyin 1044 Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) nevermind, I can't read. What OS are you running? Edited January 3, 2016 by Kilyin Quote Hide Kilyin's signature Hide all signatures My LSPDFR Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Kilyin74 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge744 3 Posted January 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Kilyin said: Can't see a path in your folder screenshot, what folder are you launching RPH from? From my GTA Root Folder Located in C/Program Files (x86)/Steam/SteamApps/Common/Grand Theft Auto V Is that the correct place? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilyin 1044 Posted January 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Badge744 said: From my GTA Root Folder Located in C/Program Files (x86)/Steam/SteamApps/Common/Grand Theft Auto V Is that the correct place? Yeah you responded before I could edit my post, as you'd already provided that information. Quote Hide Kilyin's signature Hide all signatures My LSPDFR Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Kilyin74 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge744 3 Posted January 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Kilyin said: Yeah you responded before I could edit my post, as you'd already provided that information. No problem, I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilyin 1044 Posted January 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, Badge744 said: No problem, I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. Do you have .NET Framework 4.6 installed? When you launch the game via RagePluginHook.exe do you see the custom RPH loading screens and stuff? Once you get in game, does F4 do anything? Quote Hide Kilyin's signature Hide all signatures My LSPDFR Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Kilyin74 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge744 3 Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Kilyin said: Do you have .NET Framework 4.6 installed? When you launch the game via RagePluginHook.exe do you see the custom RPH loading screens and stuff? Once you get in game, does F4 do anything? Yes, I installed 4.6. I also use RPH to load GTA V, and I see the loading screen, but once I get into GTA V I don't seem to see any sign of RPH or GTA V. Nothing happens when I press F4 in game. Edited January 3, 2016 by Badge744 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilyin 1044 Posted January 3, 2016 10 minutes ago, Badge744 said: Yes, I installed 4.6. I also use RPH to load GTA V, and I see the loading screen, but once I get into GTA V I don't seem to see any sign of RPH or GTA V. Nothing happens when I press F4 in game. Strange, that usually happens when you copy your GTA folder to another folder and try to launch from there, but you don't seem to be doing that. Unfortunately, at this time I'm not sure what to tell you to do, but if I think of something, I'll let ya know. Quote Hide Kilyin's signature Hide all signatures My LSPDFR Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Kilyin74 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge744 3 Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kilyin said: Strange, that usually happens when you copy your GTA folder to another folder and try to launch from there, but you don't seem to be doing that. Unfortunately, at this time I'm not sure what to tell you to do, but if I think of something, I'll let ya know. Thanks, I really appreciate it. I bought GTA V so I could use this mod so I hope I can get it working. Is the the normal directory for GTA V via Steam? Also, do you think would me installing the later RPH (32, then 29) by unzipping to my GTA V directory and overriding the old RPH files have anything to do with this? Best, Badge744 Edited January 3, 2016 by Badge744 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilyin 1044 Posted January 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Badge744 said: Thanks, I really appreciate it. I bought GTA V so I could use this mod so I hope I can get it working. Is the the normal directory for GTA V via Steam? Also, do you think would me installing the later RPH (32, then 29) by unzipping to my GTA V directory and overriding the old RPH files have anything to do with this? Best, Badge744 Yeah that's the default Steam directory. Are you launching RPH as administrator? Maybe give that a try. In regards to RPH 32 vs 29 -- It's possible, but unlikely as the archives contain all the same files and if you overwrote 32 with 29, it should have overwritten everything. Quote Hide Kilyin's signature Hide all signatures My LSPDFR Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Kilyin74 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge744 3 Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kilyin said: Yeah that's the default Steam directory. Are you launching RPH as administrator? Maybe give that a try. In regards to RPH 32 vs 29 -- It's possible, but unlikely as the archives contain all the same files and if you overwrote 32 with 29, it should have overwritten everything. Yes, I have tried running with and without Admin privileges with the same results. I originally tried launching the game with the included RPH version (20), then 32, then 29. I got RPH to load up (show the loading screen at least) using version 29. I'm wondering, does it look like could there possibly be a duplicate of a file that is causing it to act like this? Could be the same thing that makes it happen with a backup version. I'll also double check to make sure all of the files are unblocked. I used the option to unblock all when I first ran RPH, but maybe it overlooked one or two? Best, Badge744 Edited January 3, 2016 by Badge744 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilyin 1044 Posted January 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Badge744 said: Yes, I have tried running with and without Admin privileges with the same results. I originally tried launching the game with the included RPH version (20), then 32, then 29. I got RPH to load up (show the loading screen at least) using version 29. I'm wondering, does it look like could there possibly be a duplicate of a file that is causing it to act like this? Could be the same thing that makes it happen with a backup version. I'll also double check to make sure all of the files are unblocked. I used the option to unblock all when I first ran RPH, but maybe it overlooked one or two? Best, Badge744 I don't see one. You could try reextracting the RPH 29 archive to your GTA5 folder and see if that helps. The fact your RagePluginHook.log isn't updating tells me that for whatever reason, it's not actually 'hooking' into the game. I just have no idea why. One thing you could try is holding SHIFT while double clicking RagePluginHook.exe, hold it until a dialog box comes up. On the plugins tab make sure LSPD First Response is checked. Go to advanced settings, check the box disable directx hook, and save and launch. Once in game, see if you can see any police station icons. If not, you can revert the "disable directx hook" setting the same way. Quote Hide Kilyin's signature Hide all signatures My LSPDFR Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Kilyin74 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilyin 1044 Posted January 3, 2016 14 hours ago, Badge744 said: Yes, I have tried running with and without Admin privileges with the same results. Another thought, do you have all the latest Windows update including SP1? Have you done at least the first couple of missions in story mode where you're saved at Franklin's aunt's house? Quote Hide Kilyin's signature Hide all signatures My LSPDFR Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Kilyin74 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge744 3 Posted January 3, 2016 Yes, I am pretty much up to date update wise. I have only done the first 2 missions though, North Yankton and the car repo one. Not really interested in them but are there some more I should do and that's the reason this problem is happening? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilyin 1044 Posted January 3, 2016 38 minutes ago, Badge744 said: Yes, I am pretty much up to date update wise. I have only done the first 2 missions though, North Yankton and the car repo one. Not really interested in them but are there some more I should do and that's the reason this problem is happening? That was another shot in the dark. If you've done the first couple missions and saved your game, you should be fine. I've even asked some other people to look at this thread because it has me totally stumped and you've seemingly done everything right. Quote Hide Kilyin's signature Hide all signatures My LSPDFR Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Kilyin74 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kal74 842 Posted January 3, 2016 Here is another shot in the dark Is Steam Overlay disabled? If not disable it Are you running any other overlays or recording programs in the background, Like FRAPS or OBS? if so disable them Have you tried to temporarily disable your Anti-Virus and launch RagePluginHook Have you checked your windows Firewall to make sure GTA5.exe or RagePluginHook aren't being blocked? Can you open up your RagePluginHook Config Console? 2 Boshy and Kilyin reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge744 3 Posted January 4, 2016 Yes! Works like a charm with Steam Overlay disabled. Thanks guys - now time to get some plugins installed! Best, Badge744 3 Kilyin, Boshy and Kal74 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilyin 1044 Posted January 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Badge744 said: Yes! Works like a charm with Steam Overlay disabled. Thanks guys - now time to get some plugins installed! Best, Badge744 Wow, props to @Kal74, I never turn the steam overlay off and I've never had a problem, so I never would've guessed. To my credit, I did pull Kal in here to help out. Glad I did. Hope you enjoy LSPDFR. :) 1 Kal74 reacted to this Quote Hide Kilyin's signature Hide all signatures My LSPDFR Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Kilyin74 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kal74 842 Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kilyin said: Wow, props to @Kal74, I never turn the steam overlay off and I've never had a problem, so I never would've guessed. To my credit, I did pull Kal in here to help out. Glad I did. Hope you enjoy LSPDFR. :) Thanks Kilyin, like you, I enjoy helping people out.. So it was a Team Effort I don't know the deal is with Steam Overlay, some people have issues with it, some don't.. I just went by what the developer of RPH has said about having overlays and recording software running in the background can cause conflicts with RPH.. I guessing saying can is like saying it may or may not.. That is how I read it.. Plus it was just another shot in the dark.. I really didn't expect that to be the issue.. @Badge744 I am happy to know that your problem was finally solved.. We have a great community of people, many of them are always eager to help... Edited January 4, 2016 by Kal74 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites