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I haven't seen any threads about this yet so I thought I'd post.

 

Yesterday there were riots and looting in the St. Louis area following an officer involved shooting incident that resulted in the death of an 18 year old man. The rioters have been looting businesses, damaging police cars, shooting indiscriminately into crowds, shooting at the police helicopters, and shooting at fire/ems personnel trying to respond. I've seen reports of a gas station also being burned down after being looted, and a local police municipality being broken into, looted, and the patrol cars being damaged, and even the media vans being damaged.

 

All of this resulted from an altercation between a Freguson police officer and an 18 year old male. The facts released by the department state that the 18 year old began to fight with the police officer, pushed the officer back into his patrol car when he attempted to exit, and was struggling with the officer attempting to take the officers gun. The officer fired at least 1 shot inside his patrol car which caused the suspect to exit the car and run, the officer pursued and ended up fatally shooting the suspect a short distance away from the patrol car.

 

The media has reported that the "unarmed" teenager was surrendering with his "hands in the air" when the officer "gunned him down in the street", most initial news reports made no mention of the struggle for the officers gun.

 

As a result of the media reports, a crowd assembled, and what started as a peaceful protest turned into violent rioting.

 

Thoughts and prayers to all those involved for a safe resolution with no further injury or loss. This senseless violence is not how normal, civilized people behave.

 

http://www.kmov.com/special-coverage-001/Reports-Ferguson-protests-turn-violent-270697451.html

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Not to sound racist or anything, but it was black unarmed teenager shot by a white cop, in a black neighborhood. The media is eating this up. If you watch news Interviews, they ask a black resident what she thought. She stated something along the lines of it being disgusting and wrong what the police did. They ask if she saw it and she said no. Basically everyone in that neighborhood is going to side with the deceased. The media is spinning it into a hate crime. Again, I'm not trying to sound racist or make a racist post.

If I find the video of the interview I'll post it.

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This is sad when will police brutality come to an end.

 

The officer was doing his job...when someone attacks you (no matter the age) you defend your self. And when someone goes after your gun....you defend your self. Officers have a dangerous job. It's quite sad to see these riots happening all because a officer was doing his job and trying to protect him self and the general public. Police officers are NOT out there to harm and kill random incent people....they are out there "to serve and protect".

 

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Well to me I think in order to stop the police brutality especially among black people, black people should boycott against major companies like they did back in 1950s and 60s, this will stop a whole lot of the police brutality here in America, Mike brown did not deserve to die.

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Well to me I think in order to stop the police brutality especially among black people, black people should boycott against major companies like they did back in 1950s and 60s, this will stop a whole lot of the police brutality here in America, Mike brown did not deserve to die.

 

I'm sorry but what does protesting corporations have to do with local law enforcement and alleged police brutality? And if you're referring to an incident that happened in history, it clearly wasn't that effective since people are still implying that "brutality" is rampant in today's society. I doubt repeating an ineffective boycott would have an effect the second time around.

 

And if Mike Brown was attempting to murder a police officer as some of the facts of the case indicate that he was, then that police officer has a legal right to defend himself including the use of deadly force. No one "deserves" to die, but some people deserve what they get in response for their actions and decisions.

 

"When you do what you did, you get what you got." - Jimmy Johns Restaurant Signs

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I'm sorry but what does protesting corporations have to do with local law enforcement and alleged police brutality? And if you're referring to an incident that happened in history, it clearly wasn't that effective since people are still implying that "brutality" is rampant in today's society. I doubt repeating an ineffective boycott would have an effect the second time around.

And if Mike Brown was attempting to murder a police officer as some of the facts of the case indicate that he was, then that police officer has a legal right to defend himself including the use of deadly force. No one "deserves" to die, but some people deserve what they get in response for their actions and decisions.

"When you do what you did, you get what you got." - Jimmy Johns Restaurant Signs

What I was saying was every time we see these stories it is a white male police officer killing a black male, that man was just walking to the store and back he was shot for no apparent reason yet police officers are never charged which is wrong, that is why I say it will be very effective if black people start boycotting so that way it will get so much attention companies will be kissing their butts to come back and buy stuff from them. Black people have a bind power of one trillion dollars. Mass financial boycott is the best solution.

"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

Ray Machowski

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What I was saying was every time we see these stories it is a white male police officer killing a black male, that man was just walking to the store and back he was shot for no apparent reason yet police officers are never charged which is wrong, that is why I say it will be very effective if black people start boycotting so that way it will get so much attention companies will be kissing their butts to come back and buy stuff from them. Black people have a bind power of one trillion dollars. Mass financial boycott is the best solution.

How do you know what happened? His friends said so on the media (clearly an unbiased source)?

 

Honestly, I'm not taking any sides on this. While I find it unlikely that a cop would shoot some one for no reason as it is being spun, I know that police have acted wrong in the past and no one is capable of being perfect, thus an overreaction might have occurred.

 

However, I also know that every single source on this is biased, which is why I'm waiting for video (Body mounted cameras would really help with cases like this), a trashed interior of a police car or shell casings inside the police car.

 

Until any of these things are presented, it's stupidity to assume to know exactly what happened.

Sticks and stones may break bones, but 5.56 fragments on impact.

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What I was saying was every time we see these stories it is a white male police officer killing a black male, that man was just walking to the store and back he was shot for no apparent reason yet police officers are never charged which is wrong, that is why I say it will be very effective if black people start boycotting so that way it will get so much attention companies will be kissing their butts to come back and buy stuff from them. Black people have a bind power of one trillion dollars. Mass financial boycott is the best solution.

 

Boycott is one thing. Riots....that's another. These unruly people are out there breaking into stores, looting, and doing as they please. I think if everybody was to just calm down and allow the police and FBI to do their investigation everything would be ALOT simpler.

 

Also when you said "that man was just walking to the sore and back he was shot for no apparent reason" You may not know the reason because you must be blind from what the report said...the "incent man" walking down the street went towards and attack a police officer responding to a call and the "incent man" then went after the officers gun.

 

If you were a cop and someone came out and started beating you and then went for your gun...what would you do? And don't tell me you would let him take your gun.

 

And also the officers has not been charger with any thing because....A INVESTIGATION HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETE!!! And also during police shooting the officer must prove to a Internal Affairs unit that they acted to the best of their abilities.

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How do you know what happened? His friends said so on the media (clearly an unbiased source)?

Honestly, I'm not taking any sides on this. While I find it unlikely that a cop would shoot some one for no reason as it is being spun, I know that police have acted wrong in the past and no one is capable of being perfect, thus an overreaction might have occurred.

However, I also know that every single source on this is biased, which is why I'm waiting for video (Body mounted cameras would really help with cases like this), a trashed interior of a police car or shell casings inside the police car.

Until any of these things are presented, it's stupidity to assume to know exactly what happened.

Well I was just saying this because of the recent news story that was posted about this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1HjvorMfEjI

"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

Ray Machowski

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Actually, the police do not have a constitutional duty to protect people...

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0

The officer was doing his job...when someone attacks you (no matter the age) you defend your self. And when someone goes after your gun....you defend your self. Officers have a dangerous job. It's quite sad to see these riots happening all because a officer was doing his job and trying to protect him self and the general public. Police officers are NOT out there to harm and kill random incent people....they are out there "to serve and protect".

 

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Well I was just saying this because of the recent news story that was posted about this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1HjvorMfEjI

"Execute" in the title indicates that police walked up to him, ordered him to the ground and shot him in the back of the head. Highly unlikely.

 

Judging by other videos, particularly one of a man who was walking around with a pellet rifle and aimed it at people, titled "Police Murder Man in Wal-Mart holding Toy Gun", you can't claim that that news source is unbiased. Before anyone says anything, pellet rifles ARE capable of killing and have been used to kill dozens of people, just google it. They are not toys like many anti-police people portray them as, and some models have ballistics similar to a .22 caliber rifle.

Sticks and stones may break bones, but 5.56 fragments on impact.

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I watched that video, what I don't understand is that the police officers who were there din't ask what was going on, din't tell the man to put the gun down or nothing just straight shot him, like what the man said it's the same scenario every time white male police officers killing black males, and that's true.

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I watched that video, what I don't understand is that the police officers who were there dint ask what was going on, dint tell the man to put the gun down or nothing just straight shot him, like what the man said it's the same scenario every time white male police officers killing black males, and that's true.

 

Those are the only cases you hear because everyone then portrays it to be a races killing.  And about your comment stating that white male cops only kill black males...NOT TRUE!

 

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Oh yeah I know all kinds of cops commit some form of brutality, I'm just saying the majority of police brutality is committed by white male police officers.

"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

Ray Machowski

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